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Swoosh
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| Hopefully this will sort out the stability issues which I have been getting. |
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Naib
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| woohoo one step closer for GNOME2.8 being stable in portage |
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Saint1911
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Great stuff!, am also waiting patiently for others to do the work for me 
no seriously, i am in the process of doing a emerge -u world so, i have the time 
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berkay
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| When do you expect gnome-2.8 to be unmasked(stable) in portage... |
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gatiba
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| berkay wrote: | | When do you expect gnome-2.8 to be unmasked(stable) in portage... |
Now that 2.8.1 is out i hope very soon...  |
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taurus
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Hopefully soon enough since I am still using Gnome 2.6.1. 
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tuppe666
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| Ok I am more than a little exited by this, I moved from kde just as everything went to pot. Athough I hope this does not start a whole new lot pr abuse. I neally moved back to fluxbox, Although to tell the truth I'm not in a rush. |
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geoffp
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| berkay wrote: | | When do you expect gnome-2.8 to be unmasked(stable) in portage... |
I've heard people say that it's usually when desktops get to x.y.2 that they start to get seriously stable. But on the other hand, Gnome 2.8 depends on HAL, DBUS, etc., which are still a bit iffy, AFAIK.
So I say, if you want it, then whip out your package.keywords and have at it.  |
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JackDog
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| geoffp wrote: | | berkay wrote: | | When do you expect gnome-2.8 to be unmasked(stable) in portage... |
I've heard people say that it's usually when desktops get to x.y.2 that they start to get seriously stable. But on the other hand, Gnome 2.8 depends on HAL, DBUS, etc., which are still a bit iffy, AFAIK.
So I say, if you want it, then whip out your package.keywords and have at it. |
Since dbus is simply a message bus that gnome speaks with there really shouldnt be any stability issues with it. If dbus were to fail, gnome would simply not be able to interact with the messages and do nothing. |
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mat74
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| I got gnome 2.8 running here with dbus, hal and gvm. Works fine. |
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psyeye
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| mat74 wrote: | | I got gnome 2.8 running here with dbus, hal and gvm. Works fine. |
Yeah - me too!
....somehow.
gvm behaves strange to me: I need to insert audio cds several times before they are detected; same with USB sticks.
Anyone any ideas why? Or where I should check? (I have not found any logs for dbus/hald - where are they?!)
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JackDog
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| mat74 wrote: | | I got gnome 2.8 running here with dbus, hal and gvm. Works fine. |
Yeah I havent had any issues with dbus and hal either. I have had bad problems however looking at vfat partitions and long load times for directories. I have turned to using konqueror in the mean time. |
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flynch
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I'm just building my first gentoo based machine - really starting to like it... is it fair to say that the easiest way of getting gnome2.8.1 on gentoo-linux at the moment is garnome?
Is it possible to write emerge/portage packages (or whatever they happen to be called) of your own and contribute them?
Is there a howto on building emerge/portage packages?
Wouldn't it be relatively easy to wrap garnome in an emerge/portage package?? |
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psyeye
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| flynch wrote: | | I'm just building my first gentoo based machine - really starting to like it... is it fair to say that the easiest way of getting gnome2.8.1 on gentoo-linux at the moment is garnome? |
You can always use garnome - it'd just spoil your system since you'll install it bypassing Gentoo's package management (called portage). Imho, this is not-the-right-thing-to-to[tm].
Anyways - I have a perfect running Gnome installation running here, using the packages provided. Try this out first. I am not sure which packages are "outdated", e.g. not yet 2.8.1, but I for sure have no loss or experience any breakage. Of course: YRMV.
| Quote: | | Is it possible to write emerge/portage packages (or whatever they happen to be called) of your own and contribute them? |
They're called Ebuilds - check /usr/portage/* - there you can have a look at all the existing ebuilds.
| Quote: | | Is there a howto on building emerge/portage packages? |
Check the docs section at gentoo.org. (Obvious answer[tm], isn't it?!)
| Quote: | | Wouldn't it be relatively easy to wrap garnome in an emerge/portage package?? |
I very much doubt it - and it wouldn't give you the flexibility you'd want. Forget garnome, this is Gentoo here. 
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| psyeye wrote: | | mat74 wrote: | | I got gnome 2.8 running here with dbus, hal and gvm. Works fine. |
Yeah - me too!
....somehow.
gvm behaves strange to me: I need to insert audio cds several times before they are detected; same with USB sticks.
Anyone any ideas why? Or where I should check? (I have not found any logs for dbus/hald - where are they?!)
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i've found frequent updates to udev very usefull
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psyeye
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| wim wrote: | | psyeye wrote: | | gvm behaves strange to me |
i've found frequent updates to udev very usefull |
I have udev-030 installed - latest stable - but there is udev-042 available. I am ~10 releases behind! 
Since they're all marked unstable: Can you give me any suggestions on which version I should give a try? 042? What are you running?
Thanks for the input,
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gatiba
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| psyeye wrote: | | wim wrote: | | psyeye wrote: | | gvm behaves strange to me |
i've found frequent updates to udev very usefull |
I have udev-030 installed - latest stable - but there is udev-042 available. I am ~10 releases behind!
Since they're all marked unstable: Can you give me any suggestions on which version I should give a try? 042? What are you running?
Thanks for the input,
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I'm using udev-0.30 too...
It's safe using udev-0.42? |
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apmurray
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I have been using latest udev (42) with no probs..
I just have udev in /etc/portage/package.keywords so I can use the latest release. |
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bk0
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| I'm running udev-042 with gnome 2.8 and hal/dbus with no problems. It's nice to have hardware "just work" for a change. |
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chunderbunny
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| Well all us ~x86 users have been using it for a week or so now, I haven't seen any complaints. I think the new releases just add support for more devices. |
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Schmolch
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Can we get some ebuilds please? |
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Sequentious
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| geoffp wrote: | | berkay wrote: | | When do you expect gnome-2.8 to be unmasked(stable) in portage... |
I've heard people say that it's usually when desktops get to x.y.2 that they start to get seriously stable. But on the other hand, Gnome 2.8 depends on HAL, DBUS, etc., which are still a bit iffy, AFAIK.
So I say, if you want it, then whip out your package.keywords and have at it. |
I've been running 2.8 on two systems since it hit portage (was running 2.7 from breakmygentoo), one with udev and one with devfs. The one with udev hasn't had dbus or hal installed until this morning, and naturally the devfs hasn't either.
So it doesn't depend on hal and dbus, it just has support for them.
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