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Tyir Apprentice
Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 172 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject: is mutt a good email client? |
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I am thinking of ditching my long-used sylpheed, there are a couple things about it that bug me...
i am considering 2, thunderbird and mutt, the 2 sides of the spectrum, it seems to me
I have been moving more-and-more towards text-based programs...so am thinking of giving mutt a whirl.
my question is, do you think that mutt sitll stacks up well against modern clients (such as thunderbird)? |
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papal_authority Veteran
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 1823 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hell yes. I find the key to Mutt is having small fast MIME handlers like Dillo (HTML) and QIV (images) for MIME handling. |
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gnuageux Veteran
Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 1201
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Lunchy n00b
Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 70 Location: Hartford, Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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I've fallin in love with mutt. It's customizable in the extreme, so much so that I've given up graphical email clients. However, the downside to something being very customizable is the learning curve, which for me was kinda steep. But now that I took the time to understand it better and get it set up the way I like, it was totally worth the effort and now I can do everything I wished the graphical clients would do. Long story short, I highly recommend it. _________________ -Lunchy |
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steel300 Veteran
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to put just a little more emphasis on the steep learning curve. But with that learning curve, it can do anything you want it to do. I even got it working with kerberos authentication. _________________ Rationality is the recognition of the fact that nothing can alter the truth and nothing can take precedence over that act of perceiving it. |
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Dr Evil n00b
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 41
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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I absolutely love Mutt. Won't go back to a graphical client if I can help it.
I'm only using the basic setup in the Mutt guide I saw floating in the Gentoo docs somewhere, but for me that's more than sufficient. |
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tristure Apprentice
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 270 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about Mutt but I tried Thunderbird and I'm not very enthusiastic about it.
Firefox rocks big time but Thunderbird really isn't there yet. It's terribly slow imho, and doesn't look that good.
Don't flame me, but I would personaly advise you to try Kmail if you're in KDE. It's very fast on my my box, very good looking and much more usable than thunderbird.
I'll try mutt one of these days, though. |
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tristure Apprentice
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 270 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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[Double post, sorry]
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tristure Apprentice
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 270 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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[Oh, triple post!! Sorry again]
Last edited by tristure on Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:57 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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aethyr Veteran
Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 1085 Location: NYC
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I love mutt. I have a shortcut to start it up in an xterm window, and it starts up and displays my inbox in about 2 seconds.
I think the key to really enjoying mutt is learning the shortcut keys, and learning to set up a muttrc that suits your needs. Mutt allows for a great amount of customization.
As far as shortcut keys, some of my more common are:
'/' - search
'TAB' - next unread message
'D' - delete pattern
'l' - limit displayed messages
'o' - organize
Lots more too that I'm not remembering, but mutt is very convenient once you get used to it. |
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Tyir Apprentice
Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 172 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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hey, thanks for recommending it to me guys! (too late, actually, since I had switched full-time to mutt a couple days after the post!)
It really is an amazing client, I love pulling it up through the putty ssh client for windows..
another useful tip I learned, press t to 'tag' a message, then tag as many as you want, and then ; to finish tagging. then you can move/delete them all at one. _________________ There are two things I have learnt in life:
1. Don't reveal everything you know. |
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BlinkEye Veteran
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 1046 Location: Gentoo Forums
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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does someone know how to display unread (not new) messages in the folder preview?
the BIG PROBLEM is that mutt displays only the new message in the mailboxes (i.e. once mutt is closed a still unread new message loses its status "new" even though it is still new and is treated as unread). i understand that this might be of use but then i NEED a flag for unread messages.
this is my folder format:
Code: | set folder_format="%N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f" |
i'd appreciate any hack to circumvent this issue, i really hate to go every time through my bunch of folders.
idea: if i could jump from new/unread message to another one i'd be satisfied for the moment. but i haven't figured out how to do that (i use imap) _________________ Easily backup up your system? klick
Get rid of SSH Brute Force Attempts / Script Kiddies klick |
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aethyr Veteran
Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 1085 Location: NYC
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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BlinkEye wrote: | does someone know how to display unread (not new) messages in the folder preview?
the BIG PROBLEM is that mutt displays only the new message in the mailboxes (i.e. once mutt is closed a still unread new message loses its status "new" even though it is still new and is treated as unread). i understand that this might be of use but then i NEED a flag for unread messages.
this is my folder format:
Code: | set folder_format="%N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f" |
i'd appreciate any hack to circumvent this issue, i really hate to go every time through my bunch of folders.
idea: if i could jump from new/unread message to another one i'd be satisfied for the moment. but i haven't figured out how to do that (i use imap) |
I'm confused as to what you mean, here's what happens to me when I use mutt to read imap:
I get a new email, it is marked as "N". If I don't read it, and exit mutt and come back, it is then marked "O" as old. However, you can change this behavior with the following (as found in `man muttrc`):
Code: | mark_old
Type: boolean
Default: yes
Controls whether or not mutt marks new unread messages as old if
you exit a mailbox without reading them. With this option set,
the next time you start mutt, the messages will show up with an
"O" next to them in the index menu, indicating that they are
old. |
Does that solve your problem? If not, you're going to have to be a bit more clear as to what the issue is. |
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Tyir Apprentice
Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 172 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, if there is a new message, but you close mutt, it should be marked with an O _________________ There are two things I have learnt in life:
1. Don't reveal everything you know. |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20090
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Moved from Other Things Gentoo. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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Stormy Eyes Veteran
Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 1064 Location: Watching God spit-shine my boots.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Mutt rules. Read this HOWTO. |
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slarti` Retired Dev
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 376 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Mutt is excellent. The documentation is both thorough and clear, so check http://www.mutt.org out.
My system looks something like this:
- Getmail from dev.gentoo.org and mail.edgeoftheinterweb.org.uk using SSL and IMAP in the first instance, POP3 in the second.
- Procmail for sorting and filtering. First of all, all mail is filtered through clamassassin (a spamassassin-like interface to clamav which I maintain). Then I use it to catch duplicates, filter HTML mail, correct Lines: headers so that Mutt can correctly display the number of lines in the message even when it's stored in a maildir, reformat old-style PGP messages to MIME, mailing list filtering, then spamassassin and razor for spam filtering on the remaining likely-spam mail.
- Mutt
- Vim
- Msmtp, another package I maintain. A full featured SMTP client, designed for use with mutt.
So much stuff here just cannot be done in other mail clients, whether it's procmail or mutt that's doing the work. For instance, I have two mail accounts, and I use send-hooks to change my account and various other settings depending on who I'm sending to. I use folder-hooks to colour mail based on regular expressions in the subject, or sender. Seriously useful for filtering rubbish.
Never forget `?'. If you're stuck, it's always there for you. _________________ Gentoo/AMD64, shell-tools, net-mail, vim, recruiters
IRC: slarti @ irc.freenode.net
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Ari Rahikkala Guru
Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 370 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Mutt sucks.
It sucks less than the other clients, though :p. _________________ <laurentius> gentoo linux?
<ari> Yesh.
<laurentius> they look horny |
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WhyteWolf Apprentice
Joined: 01 May 2002 Posts: 168 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:33 am Post subject: |
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honestly I love mutt
heres a sample of my muttrc on a debian server I'm always sshing into
Code: | source ~/.muttconf/profiles/profile.active
macro index X "!~/muttprofile\n:source ~/.muttconf/profiles/profile.active\n" "Call muttprofile and load profile"
source ~/.muttconf/muttfolders
source ~/.muttconf/spamlearn
send-hook (lvlug@lvlug.org) $ "source ~/.muttconf/profiles/profile.four-twenty\n"
send-hook (unleashed@lvlug.org) $ "source ~/.muttconf/profiles/profile.four-twenty\n"
set sort=threads # sorting the mails in threads
set sort_aux=date-sent # sort brother mails inside threads
source ~/.muttconf/muttcolor
set realname = WhyteWolf
set reverse_name = yes
set reverse_realname = yes
set alternates = "whytewolf@four-twenty.com"
set edit_headers = yes
set weed = no
set status_on_top = yes
set timeout = 10
set quit = ask-yes
set arrow_cursor = yes
set pager_context = 1
set pager_stop = yes
set markers = no
set signature = "~/.signature"
set askbcc = yes
set askcc = yes
set record = ~/Mail/Sent
set folder = "~/Mail/"
set spoolfile = imap://localhost
mailboxes ! `find ~/Mail/ -type f ! -name "Sent" ! -name ".*" ! -name "*.archive" ! -regex ".*Archives.*" -printf "=%P "` imap://localhost
macro index <left> ':mailboxes `find ~/Mail/ -type f ! -name "Sent" ! -name ".*" ! -name "*.archive" ! -regex ".*Archives.*" -printf "=%P "`<enter>c?<toggle-mailboxes>'
subscribe lvlug@ lvlug-unleashed@ phpmyadmin-users@ phpmyadmin-news@ gentoo-gwn@ openmosix-general@
folder-hook spam push 'D.\n'
set sort_alias = alias
set alias_file=~/.muttconf/addresses
source ~/.muttconf/addresses |
and thats a small sample ... not to mention it's old i REALLY need to update it cause of some changes that were made to my mailing lists ... as well as a few other tweaks ...
this isn't the full config either as can be seen by all the sourceing ...
but needlesss to say I have control over spamassassin with in mutt ... as well as a few folder tweaks to auto scan my folders when I press the left arrow key ... and auto profiling so that depending on which folder I'm viewing changes who I am replying as
wish I could remeber how I found most of this stuff i know the profile scripting was something I dug up out of googleing for a few min ... and the folder scan was just a random muttrc I found _________________ Thomas Phipps
Linux User #180408 LFS User #1791 |
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yakapiece Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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definitely mutt |
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Tyir Apprentice
Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 172 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:19 am Post subject: |
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For some reason Blinkeye used my post to ask a mutt question, but there is no point of convincing me, I've been a full-time mutt user Since June (check the dates!)
Yes, mutt is awsome _________________ There are two things I have learnt in life:
1. Don't reveal everything you know. |
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