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xbradx n00b
Joined: 27 Apr 2002 Posts: 24 Location: charlotte, nc
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2002 2:13 am Post subject: ripping cds with grip |
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i'm having some trouble ripping cds with grip (cdparanoia/lame) and was wondering if anyone else had had similiar problems. i stick the CD in and it detects, cddbs it and all that and i check off the tracks i want to rip. i hit 'rip and encode' and it rips the track fine, but then it stops and ejects my cd. on the main tab in grip it says "No Disc".
Anyone know what's up? I can't figure this one out. |
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klieber Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 3657 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2002 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know the specific answer to your question, but it sounds like lame is having trouble encoding the wav files. Since grip is just a front-end tool, try encoding a wav file using lame directly. If you're getting an error message, that will help you determine what the problem is. Chances are, it's something permissions-related, but it could be a number of things.
Also, are you getting any relevant error messages in your logs?
--kurt _________________ The problem with political jokes is that they get elected |
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Jeevz Bodhisattva
Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 195 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2002 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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You might want to check out Grip's mailing list. I'm on it and and see peeps getting expert answers to questions rather quickly. |
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vcolombo n00b
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
Just wondering if you ever found the solution to this problem. I just worked through the same thing on my system. Let me know if you still need help figuring this out and I can give you a hand.
Vince |
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syadnom Guru
Joined: 09 May 2002 Posts: 531
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 4:15 pm Post subject: lame |
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i would almost guarantee that its a problem with lame, try to get a newer OR older version of lame.
just unmerge your current lame , you wont be able to emerge another lame but you can install one by hand...
this is the only solution i can think of unless you just dont have enough rights to run this, where is you lame executable OR the link to it?
maybee you could just try to re emerge lame?? maybee you current lame is broken somehow....
good luck, keep us posted |
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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syadnom wrote: | i would almost guarantee that its a problem with lame |
I would almost guarantee it's not a problem with lame, because that wouldn't cause Grip to blow up and spit out the CD. |
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klieber Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 3657 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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IIRC, there's an option in grip to spit out the CD when it's done ripping and encoding. So, grip may not be blowing up -- it may just think lame (or whatever) is finished, so it's behaving as expected.
--kurt _________________ The problem with political jokes is that they get elected |
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syadnom Guru
Joined: 09 May 2002 Posts: 531
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 5:15 pm Post subject: .. |
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i dont think grip is blowing up and spitting out hte cd, i think that lame is having and error and stops, so grip just assumes the conversion is complete and spits out the cd.
this is all just an assumption though....
just trying to give some more thought on exploration to find the solution.. |
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rizzo Retired Dev
Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 1067 Location: Manitowoc, WI, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Step 1: Don't use grip. Use abcde.
Step 2: Don't use mp3. Use oggvorbis. http://www.vorbis.com for more info.
Step 3: Enjoy.
OK not to be a troll. I just love abcde, but your preference is yours. However, ogg has many non-opinion advantages over mp3. Namely, better compression, which means higher quality sound at less size. Read more at that URL. |
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klieber Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 3657 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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The problem (?) with grip is never going to get solved unless someone experiencing the problem takes the time to see if they're able to encode using lame directly. That will determine if it's a grip problem or if the problem lies somewhere else.
--kurt _________________ The problem with political jokes is that they get elected |
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JefP@@ Apprentice
Joined: 09 May 2002 Posts: 179 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2002 9:48 am Post subject: |
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You do have lame installed, right ? |
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billatq Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 09 Jun 2002 Posts: 96
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 2:26 am Post subject: |
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I had the same problem, until I determined that the cd I was using had a scratch across where the TOC is located. I'm guessing that your cd isn't bad, but it may be related to it being unable to read the cd in some fashion. |
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xbradx n00b
Joined: 27 Apr 2002 Posts: 24 Location: charlotte, nc
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 2:20 am Post subject: |
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actually mine was a very stupid mistake that was my fault. i left off the "%w %m" on the command to use with lame. stupid . |
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SlCKB0Y Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Jul 2002 Posts: 105 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 11:02 am Post subject: |
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rizzo wrote: | Step 1: Don't use grip. Use abcde.
Step 2: Don't use mp3. Use oggvorbis. http://www.vorbis.com for more info.
Step 3: Enjoy.
OK not to be a troll. I just love abcde, but your preference is yours. However, ogg has many non-opinion advantages over mp3. Namely, better compression, which means higher quality sound at less size. Read more at that URL. |
ummm....also you forgot that MP3's are FAAR more compatible. for instance the thousands of mp3 players player what? you guessed it ..MP3.
its not always about quality, its often about standards |
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AlterEgo Veteran
Joined: 25 Apr 2002 Posts: 1619
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 11:31 am Post subject: Re: ripping cds with grip |
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xbradx wrote: | i'm having some trouble ripping cds with grip (cdparanoia/lame) and was wondering if anyone else had had similiar problems. i stick the CD in and it detects, cddbs it and all that and i check off the tracks i want to rip. i hit 'rip and encode' and it rips the track fine, but then it stops and ejects my cd. on the main tab in grip it says "No Disc".
Anyone know what's up? I can't figure this one out. |
Run grip as root, and all worked fine again (for me at least) |
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arkane l33t
Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 918 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: ripping cds with grip |
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AlterEgo wrote: | xbradx wrote: | i'm having some trouble ripping cds with grip (cdparanoia/lame) and was wondering if anyone else had had similiar problems. i stick the CD in and it detects, cddbs it and all that and i check off the tracks i want to rip. i hit 'rip and encode' and it rips the track fine, but then it stops and ejects my cd. on the main tab in grip it says "No Disc".
Anyone know what's up? I can't figure this one out. |
Run grip as root, and all worked fine again (for me at least) |
Never ever ever ever EVER run software as root....
There is always another way, and quite frankly it's all permissions.
make sure your sr0 or whatever is set to group cdrw, and make sure your in the cdrw group. the /etc/devfsd.conf will require you to uncomment the lines chaning the permissions. Then, do "kill -HUP `pidof devfsd`", which re-reads the configuration.
Then, your cdrom should be something like:
brw-rw---- 1 root cdrw 11, 0 Dec 31 1969 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd |
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LibraMark n00b
Joined: 25 Apr 2002 Posts: 27 Location: Pullman, Washington; USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:45 am Post subject: |
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As arkane says,
This is definitely a permissions problem. The permissions are not correct for you to run lame, and grip just thinks the encoding is done and ejects the disk. I had the same problem before: when I switched to scsi emulation for my new cdrw, the permissions for the drive became root. Just had to change permissions on the scsi generic drive that it became (sgx). Could be a different designation for devfs as I wasn't using it in this case.
Good Luck,
Mark. |
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rommel Veteran
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 1145 Location: Williamsburg Virginia
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:28 am Post subject: |
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i just ripped like 20 cd's yesterday with grip with no issues...if it works for me it works...everything that hasnt worked for me but has worked for someone has eventually shown itself to be USER ERROR AGAIN!!...i was smarter in my last lifetime i swear.
and i would like to second arkanes "never as root" advice...only if its suppose to be that way ....since this is linux/unix its better to deal with the permissions issue correctly even whrn it doesnt seem to matter it really does. |
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True Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 125 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Why not just run 'grip -v' so you can actually *see* what's wrong as opposed to *guessing* what's wrong |
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rizzo Retired Dev
Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 1067 Location: Manitowoc, WI, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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SlCKB0Y wrote: |
ummm....also you forgot that MP3's are FAAR more compatible. for instance the thousands of mp3 players player what? you guessed it ..MP3.
its not always about quality, its often about standards |
MP3 isn't a "standard", unless you count on de facto standards. I don't, and no one should. MP3 is PROPRIETARY and developers of mp3 applications/hardware have to pay royalties to support mp3s. Ogg Vorbis has no such restriction.
Now let's see: Better quality, smaller file size, open-source, patent (i.e. royalty) free? I wonder what will be more supported down the road when manufacturers/developers get wind of this?
Don't be a sheep. You can create change for the better by picking the best solution and sticking to your guns. Email developers/manufacturers telling them of your choice. Critical mass will surely come. Do not believe for a second that you cannot have an effect on something like this. |
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klieber Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 3657 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Folks -- this is getting off-topic. This thread is about ripping cds with grip, not the benefits and deficiencies of the mp3 and oggvorbis formats...
Please keep it on-topic.
--kurt _________________ The problem with political jokes is that they get elected |
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rizzo Retired Dev
Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 1067 Location: Manitowoc, WI, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just thought I'd kindly assert my version of the truth in reply to Sickboy's (misinformed, IMHO) assertions.
Of course explaining my off-topic post is probably also off-topic. It's like some crazy mobius thread or something.
Alright I'll stop now. |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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If anyone feels the need to continue the "benefits and deficiencies of the mp3 and oggvorbis formats" debate, I have set up this thread for you. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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