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Xanoxt R'rilander
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I tried installing fluid portage, but alas subversion conflicts with apache. :>

In any case, the question still stands. "Got ebuilds?"
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have now. Thought someone would have made them by now, if not a user then official ones. But anyway, here: xfce4-4.1.99.1-20041116.tar.bz2. They've compiled fine for me, I'm going to switch into it once I've sent this.

As usual, untar to your PORTDIR_OVERLAY, add the packages to /etc/portage/package.keywords with
Code:
echo "=dev-libs/dbh-1.0.20 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-base/xfprint-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-2.2.2 ~x86
=xfce-base/xffm-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.1.99.1 ~x86
=xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.99.1 ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
and /etc/portage/package.unmask with
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echo "=dev-libs/dbh-1.0.20
=xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.1.99.1
=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.1.99.1
=xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.1.99.1
=xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.1.99.1
=xfce-base/xfprint-4.1.99.1
=xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.1.99.1
=x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-2.2.2
=xfce-base/xffm-4.1.99.1
=xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.1.99.1
=xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.1.99.1
=xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.1.99.1
=xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.1.99.1
=xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.1.99.1
=xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.1.99.1
=xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme-4.1.99.1
=xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder-4.1.99.1
=xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.1.99.1
=xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.1.99.1
=xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.99.1" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask
, and then "emerge -av xfce4" or "emerge -av xfce4-base".
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be better to have the ebuilds named "4.2.0_rc1" rather than "4.1.99.1" ?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I originally went with that scheme on my beta1 ebuilds, but I changed over to the numbered version because it was what the portage ebuilds were doing and it was how the packages are on the mirrors and the subdirectory inside the tarballs. That means a bit less editing for each one as you can use ${PV} as the ebuild's version (e.g in the case of libxfce4util: it uses http://www.xfce.org/archive/xfce-${PV}/src/${PN}-{PV}.tar.gz , which will be correct for a new version if they keep the same scheme, instead of http://www.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.1.99.1/src/libxfce4util-4.1.99.1.tar.gz ).

So in many ways I agree, I would prefer to emerge 4.2.0_rc1 over 4.1.99.1. But from an "editing loads of ebuilds for even more than just dependency versions" perspective then not really. (Which in fact reminds me that I can also avoid that part of editing with ${PV}.. Don't know why I didn't think of that :roll:)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I understand. Thanks for the ebuilds and the explanation, Pip101!

Now I have something to do when I get home this afternoon :wink:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pip101 wrote:
I have now. Thought someone would have made them by now, if not a user then official ones.
Why don't you submit these? AFAICT, there's not much distinction between user-submitted and official ebuilds. Some that I've made have ended up in the Portage tree. And that's saying somethin'... ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great! Thanks! :) Im emerging now. Will test in the morning. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pip101, I just wanted to let you know you were missing a few things in the /etc/portage/package.unmask file. Here's what I put in mine:
Code:
# Xfce 4.2 stuff
dev-libs/dbh
xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-
xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins
xfce-base/xfce4-panel
xfce-base/xfdesktop
xfce-base/xfprint
xfce-base/xfce-utils
x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce
xfce-base/xffm
xfce-base/xfce4-base
xfce-base/xfce4-session
xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher
xfce-extra/xfce4-systray
xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox
xfce-extra/xfcalendar
xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme
xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder
xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer
xfce-extra/xfce4-toys
xfce-base/xfce4
xfce-base/libxfce4util
xfce-base/libxfce4mcs
xfce-base/libxfcegui4
xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager
xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes
xfce-base/xfwm4

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff. Thanks, Pip101.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody knows if they fixed composite manager there? I'm running beta2 and had a lot of troubles with it, so had to disable it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I carried out the instructions in this thread, everything works EXCEPT that the "Quick Run" panel applet, which does not accept text input. Is there an updated version which has to be installed separately?

EDIT: I had to install: xfce4-minicmd version 3. This is also hardmasked and had to be unmasked as per the technique on the other files, outlined above.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:30 am    Post subject: Minicmd Reply with quote

Hi,
I solved the problem of xfce4-minicmd with this ebuild:

http://mirror.reachable.ca/gentoo/portage/xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd/

put the ebuild (v 0.3.0) in your portage overlay

cd to xfce-extra
mkdir xfce4-minicmd


there you can give: ebuild xfce4-minicmd-0.3.0.ebuild digest

then emerge it, It's working for me
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello!

Just emerged XFCE4 4.2 RC1 gotta say it's running great and looks great
http://www.tripodbox.com/emorphix/screen.png

I was using fluxbox and using the standard xcompmgr, I had it set so the windows would fade whenever I would minimize them (xcompmgr -cCfF -r7 -o.65 -l -10 -t-8 D7) which was really nice 8O, however it would cause ghosting with the windows to leave a ghost image when minmizing if a window was non transparent, I don't show that issue with XFCE4 which is great.

What I wanted to ask is it was possible to configure the composite manager that XFCE4 uses to allow me to set similar settings for the fade effect.

I also wanted to know how I can edit the right click pop-up menu, I know with the menu editor you can add new commands, but I want to change the 'system' menu, where it states the Games, Development, Graphics, etc.

I would appreciate any help!

Thanks for looking at my post :)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emorphix wrote:
I also wanted to know how I can edit the right click pop-up menu, I know with the menu editor you can add new commands, but I want to change the 'system' menu, where it states the Games, Development, Graphics, etc.
The way i did it was through the settings manager.

Settings Manager :arrow: Desktop :arrow: Menu :arrow: Edit desktop menu

That'll give you a nice GUI configuration where you can add/remove/change the menu.


EDIT: It's too early for me to be spelling correctly :oops:
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your post codegeek42.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emorphix,
I'm pretty sure you can't edit the compositor for xfwm4. I know you can use `xfwm4 --disable-compositor` so that you can use xcompmgr in Xfce. However, I think Xfce's, while lacking some features, is a lot less buggy. :)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewski thanks for your reply,

I'm just thinking of getting rid of the Extensions option in xorg all together (eventhough it looks really really smooth), it seems to be giving me issues with some GL games, going to see if disabiling that helps or not.

I run XFCE4 4.2 RC1 by putting startxfce4 in my .xinitrc, so how can I still use --disable-compositor?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of running startx, run startxfce4 from the CLI. Then, instead of creating your own .xinitrc in ~ (which I'm assuming is what you're doing), you can copy the one from /etc{/xdg?}/xfce4/xinitrc to ~ and edit to taste. Once you do that, you have only to add the --disable-compositor to the line of "xfwm4". :)

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know custom overlay ebuilds are out, but the typical portage ones aren't. Isn't that strange seeing how the previous betas were in portage pretty soon after release? Or is it just me?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, thanks for the replies.

I would rather use my .xinitrc, I specified my xmodmap settings and then placed startxfce4 underneath, but for some reason now when I have the Extensions Option enabled in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf XFCE4 composite manager is not enabled :cry:

I can however start xcompmgr and use those settings but as said in this thread there is bugs removed from the xfce4 compsoite manager that make it run smoother.

I would like the default back :)

If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emorphix wrote:
Hello!

Just emerged XFCE4 4.2 RC1 gotta say it's running great and looks great
http://www.tripodbox.com/emorphix/screen.png

I was using fluxbox and using the standard xcompmgr, I had it set so the windows would fade whenever I would minimize them (xcompmgr -cCfF -r7 -o.65 -l -10 -t-8 D7) which was really nice 8O, however it would cause ghosting with the windows to leave a ghost image when minmizing if a window was non transparent, I don't show that issue with XFCE4 which is great.

What I wanted to ask is it was possible to configure the composite manager that XFCE4 uses to allow me to set similar settings for the fade effect.

I also wanted to know how I can edit the right click pop-up menu, I know with the menu editor you can add new commands, but I want to change the 'system' menu, where it states the Games, Development, Graphics, etc.

I would appreciate any help!

Thanks for looking at my post :)


Just out of interest, the term your using, is it Terminal from http://www.os-cillation.com/article.php?sid=40? If so how did you get it to have a default icon, mine still just has the generic one xfce gives to all apps without a particular icon. :(
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Just out of interest, the term your using, is it Terminal from http://www.os-cillation.com/article.php?sid=40? If so how did you get it to have a default icon, mine still just has the generic one xfce gives to all apps without a particular icon. :(


Hello,

The terms that I am using in that screenshot is gnome-terminal, I use aterm as well here is the config I use for aterm, these are set in .Xdefaults of course:

Code:

aterm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-*
Aterm*loginShell:       true
Aterm*saveLines:        5000
Aterm*scrollBar_right:  true
Aterm*reverseVideo:     true
Aterm*scrollBar:        off
#Aterm*geometry: 135x5+1000+0
#Aterm*keysym.BackSpace: ^H

Aterm*foreground:       black
Aterm*transparent:      true
Aterm*shading:          25
Aterm*fading:           75
Aterm*borderWidth:      0
#Aterm*borderLess:      True

!black
!Aterm*color0: #BFBFBF
!Aterm*color8: #808080

!red
Aterm*color1: #C16060
Aterm*color9: #FF8080

!green
Aterm*color2: #98BE5F
Aterm*color10: #CCFF80

!yellow
Aterm*color3: #BEBE5F
Aterm*color11: #FFFF80

!blue
Aterm*color4: #6078C1
Aterm*color12: #738FE6

!magenta
Aterm*color5: #BE5FA6
Aterm*color13: #E673C9

!cyan
Aterm*color6: #5EBBBB
Aterm*color14: #66CCCC

!white
Aterm*color7: #DFDFDF
Aterm*color15: #F5F5F5

!Underline && Bold
Aterm*colorUL: #FFE680
Aterm*colorBD: #BFE1FF


This makes it similar to gnome-terminal however the fonts are not going to be anti-alias but still looks pretty good, I know some people don't like all the deps that gnome-terminal requires :(

Hope this helps!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm i didnt see this til today i knew RC1 was out and i am also confused as to why it hasnt hit portage yet gonna hit up the other builds though, thanks :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I used the graphical installer that xfce4 provides to install XFce4 RC1... (you might have to use it in tvm if you don't have another desktop manager) But to me it was rather flawless. It tells you which libraries you are missing and you can get em all from portage. It even has an uninstaller although I haven't tried it yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd still prefer an ebuild in portage. Or how does the graphical installer handle updates to future versions?
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