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Avenger902
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| I dunno how it will be done... All it has right now is the uninstaller but perhaps when Xfce has 4.2 finalized it will allow the graphical installer to upgrade over RC1, I don't know. All I know is that I give them props for coming up with a good installer. |
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I've installed the new xfce4.2 and it looks great. However i have few problems.
I used 4.0.6 without panel or taskbar but on xfce4.2 I can't find the file where it starts those programs. I've tried comment out xftaskbar4 and panel from ~/.xfce4/xinitrc , ~/.config/xfce4/xinitrc and /etc/xfce4/xinitrc but it still starts panel and taskbar after login. So where can I disable them? |
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LostSon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:22 am Post subject: |
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You need to kill these procs in a terminal then when loggin out use the session manager to save the session. Then will you login back in to xfce those procs will not start  |
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wong
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| emorphix wrote: | Hello!
Just emerged XFCE4 4.2 RC1 gotta say it's running great and looks great
http://www.tripodbox.com/emorphix/screen.png
I was using fluxbox and using the standard xcompmgr, I had it set so the windows would fade whenever I would minimize them (xcompmgr -cCfF -r7 -o.65 -l -10 -t-8 D7) which was really nice  , however it would cause ghosting with the windows to leave a ghost image when minmizing if a window was non transparent, I don't show that issue with XFCE4 which is great.
What I wanted to ask is it was possible to configure the composite manager that XFCE4 uses to allow me to set similar settings for the fade effect.
I also wanted to know how I can edit the right click pop-up menu, I know with the menu editor you can add new commands, but I want to change the 'system' menu, where it states the Games, Development, Graphics, etc.
I would appreciate any help!
Thanks for looking at my post  |
nice screenshot
can you tell me which themes are you using please?
and does anybody know how to get terminal icon to window list for xterm? gnome-terminal has it, but it is too slow 
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I've installed the new xfce4.2 and it looks great. However i have few problems.
I used 4.0.6 without panel or taskbar but on xfce4.2 I can't find the file where it starts those programs. I've tried comment out xftaskbar4 and panel from ~/.xfce4/xinitrc , ~/.config/xfce4/xinitrc and /etc/xfce4/xinitrc but it still starts panel and taskbar after login. So where can I disable them? |
Almost same question:
where can i enable autostart for some applications?
I know ~/Desktop/Autostart, but I don't want Desktop folder in my ~
i need to start lineakd and some other apps
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LostSon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | lmost same question:
where can i enable autostart for some applications? |
Again using the session manager leave the program u wish to use running when loggin out. Then with the session manager make sure the save session box is checked and it will save what you have running i.e. gkrellm xmms and they will automatically b there when you log back in the next time |
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Hate
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| LostSon wrote: | | You need to kill these procs in a terminal then when loggin out use the session manager to save the session. Then will you login back in to xfce those procs will not start |
This solved the problem. Thanks. |
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Vim_Fuego
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:06 am Post subject: |
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It would seem that 4.2 RC1 has hit the portage-tree... The only problem I encountered was that the xfce-extra/appfinder-4.1.99.1-ebuild wasn't available.
After some hacking in the xfce4 ebuild (replaced the appfinder-4.1.99.1 line(well, actually replaced $PV) with appfinder-4.1.99) I finally got it compiling....
So far so good....  |
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LostSon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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I saw it hit portage this morning and am trying to get it going with not much luck though  |
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LostSon
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I bet it would help if i would sync this morning  |
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LostSon
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| Vim_Fuego wrote: | It would seem that 4.2 RC1 has hit the portage-tree... The only problem I encountered was that the xfce-extra/appfinder-4.1.99.1-ebuild wasn't available.
After some hacking in the xfce4 ebuild (replaced the appfinder-4.1.99.1 line(well, actually replaced $PV) with appfinder-4.1.99) I finally got it compiling....
So far so good.... |
Im getting the same thing could you elaborate a little more on how you fixed it, thanks |
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Vim_Fuego
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| LostSon wrote: | | Vim_Fuego wrote: | It would seem that 4.2 RC1 has hit the portage-tree... The only problem I encountered was that the xfce-extra/appfinder-4.1.99.1-ebuild wasn't available.
After some hacking in the xfce4 ebuild (replaced the appfinder-4.1.99.1 line(well, actually replaced $PV) with appfinder-4.1.99) I finally got it compiling....
So far so good.... |
Im getting the same thing could you elaborate a little more on how you fixed it, thanks |
Edit the ebuild:
| Code: | | nano /usr/portage/xfce-base/xfce4/xfce4-4.1.99.1.ebuild |
Replace this line:
| Code: | | =xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder-${PV} |
with this line:
| Code: | | =xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder-4.1.91 |
What I essentially did, is RC1 compile with the appfinder-ebuild from beta2
What I also encountered is that xfce needs a directory ".config" in your root/home directory... I had to delete a file called .config (I have no idea what does...) and made the directory. Or else you will get some really weird behavior from xfce... |
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LostSon
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Vim_Fuego
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I would guess that your problem resides in:
/usr/portage/xfce-base/xfce4-base/xfce4-base-4.1.99.1.ebuild
The ebuild hard-coded version 2.2.0 in it.... To be honest, I don't know why that was done... You could try and change it though...
Edit: Where did you're post go, LostSon?! |
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LostSon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Vim_Fuego wrote: | Well, I would guess that your problem resides in:
/usr/portage/xfce-base/xfce4-base/xfce4-base-4.1.99.1.ebuild
The ebuild hard-coded version 2.2.0 in it.... To be honest, I don't know why that was done... You could try and change it though...
Edit: Where did you're post go, LostSon?! |
Well i searched portage and saw that 2.2.1 wasnt in portage so i just deleted the post
I really have to quit putting booze in my coffee in the morning |
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LostSon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| There RC1 merged and up and running thanks for the help guys |
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jingo
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How did you get the windows transparent??
How do I configure the buildin xcompmgr?
The panel is transparent, but nothing else (windows got shadows)!!
Installed using the ebuilds.
/Jingo
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MG-Cloud
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Just installed xfce4 to try it out. Wow. Looks so nice!!! Whatever it does to render fonts that's different from gnome ... really does it for me
However I'm having an issue with "ghosting" on the desktop. First off, I can't drag a selection box on the desktop to select anything (well, there's nothing there... and I don't know if you're supposed to be able to with xfce since i've never used it)
Next, when I right click on the desktop to spawn a menu, exiting the menu doesn't stop the menu from displaying - it stays on the desktop and I'm unable to redraw the desktop to make it go away, unless I move another window on top of it.
Is this a known bug? Is there something I can do to fix it?
I have xorg 6.8, but compositor is disabled. |
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emorphix
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | How did you get the windows transparent??
How do I configure the buildin xcompmgr?
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Hi! 
You want to make sure you compile xfwm4 with the composite manager it has (its much less buggy than the one that xorg uses)
| Code: | | USE="compositor" emerge =xfce-base/xfwm4-4.1.99.1 |
Then in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf add the following:
| Code: | Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
Option "Render" "Enable"
EndSection |
Add the transset package to the package.keywords to unmask the package.
| Code: | | echo "=x11-misc/transset-0.1_pre20040821 ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
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| Code: | | emerge =x11-misc/transset-0.1_pre20040821 |
now restart X and XFCE4 once you start X and XFCE4 again you will see the windows have a drop shadow enabled. To make the windows transparent open a terminal and type:
It will change your cursor into a corss click the window that you want to make transparent, change the interger to adjust the setting of the transparentcy.
That should give you the wonderful yet very flaky (has tons of issues when trying to use it with GL I recommend disabling Extensions when using GL) Destkop Enviornment to play in
As far as editing the xcompmgr that XFWM4 uses, I don't think you can, and anywyas the xcompmgr that xorg uses granted the features are there but also are the bugs.
That should get you going as far as setting a transparent window
Enjoy!
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djlotek
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:54 am Post subject: How to emerge this? |
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Can anyone tell me how to emerge this ebuild? The newest version I show in Portage is xfce-base/xfce4 (4.0.6). Gentoo-portage.com shows 4.1.99.1 as being "Hard Masked".
I have already added the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" to my make.conf, but still cant see the newest ebuild.
Also, will I still have to do the xfce4-appfinder fix, or has this been corrected in portage already?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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emorphix
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If you read in previous post of this thread you will see they speak about /etc/portage/package.keywords and /etc/portage/package.unmask
Those are the files where you want to add the hard masked packages, please read the forum prior to posting.
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MG-Cloud
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: |
ust installed xfce4 to try it out. Wow. Looks so nice!!! Whatever it does to render fonts that's different from gnome ... really does it for me Wink
However I'm having an issue with "ghosting" on the desktop. First off, I can't drag a selection box on the desktop to select anything (well, there's nothing there... and I don't know if you're supposed to be able to with xfce since i've never used it)
Next, when I right click on the desktop to spawn a menu, exiting the menu doesn't stop the menu from displaying - it stays on the desktop and I'm unable to redraw the desktop to make it go away, unless I move another window on top of it.
Is this a known bug? Is there something I can do to fix it?
I have xorg 6.8, but compositor is disabled.
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Hey a little more information on my previous problem.
I spent an hour or so reading some xfce docs as well as some posts on this forum. By tinkering around with Xorg and enabling compositor (NOT something I want to have on all the time although it looks really cool!), I was able to solve the problem of the desktop menu not disappearing on the desktop.
So, I figured that the problem would be related to the compositor - in fact, on checking the ebuild for xfwm4, I saw that --enable-compositor was present, so I changed it to --disable-compositor. However, I saw that xfce4-compositor.o was being created during the compile process.
This didn't work, so I tried moving /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc to ~/.config/xfce4 and editing the xfwm4 line to show:
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xfwm4 --daemon --disable-compositor --compositor=off
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but that didn't work either. I also tried editing the one in /etc/xdg/xfce4, to the same effect.
a ps aux output only shows a display and sm parameter to xfwm4.
Any suggestions? Perhaps some of the config files are treated differently in gentoo? *shrugs*
Anyways, any help would be appreciated as this DE really rocks and I would love to use it as my default. |
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| I notice there is a use flag for xfce-utils of +gtkhtml I looked at usting it and it tried to intall hal. I was under the impression xfce4.2 did not use hal. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Portage wantss to downgrade my xfce without an apparent reason...
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aesir ~ # emerge -uDpv world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 433 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] -xinerama 786 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 357 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 614 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 381 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 0 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 845 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] -gtkhtml 1,253 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 1,189 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] +alsa 522 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 2,437 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 333 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 1,266 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 1,435 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 757 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 389 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 305 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 339 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xffm-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 1,723 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfprint-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 482 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 1,580 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 402 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.91 [4.1.99.1] 0 kB
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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This didn't work, so I tried moving /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc to ~/.config/xfce4 and editing the xfwm4 line to show:
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xfwm4 --daemon --disable-compositor --compositor=off
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but that didn't work either. I also tried editing the one in /etc/xdg/xfce4, to the same effect.
a ps aux output only shows a display and sm parameter to xfwm4.
Any suggestions? Perhaps some of the config files are treated differently in gentoo? *shrugs*
Anyways, any help would be appreciated as this DE really rocks and I would love to use it as my default. |
Actually, Xfce 4.2 (as of the first beta, I think) saves your session, so that the same applications that were open and running when you quit open and run when you start your session, including things like your panel, desktop manager, and the window manager. Try resetting your session by doing an `rm -rf $HOME/.cache/*` and then when you nex run Xfce 4 (via startxfce4 or what-have-you), it will reset itself to the default session in $HOME/.config/xfce4/xinitrc or /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc if your user does not have their own $HOME/.config/xfce4/xinitrc file. Alternatively, you can rebuild xfwm4 without compositor support by running `USE="-compositor" emerge xfwm4` as root.
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emorphix
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Hi
I have a question,
I'm trying to run ROX as my filemanager, i'm going through my panel configuring my launch panel icons to run the rox file manager as root so I can move around the filesystem with the gui to my liking.
This is how I went about trying to do this.
I created a panel Icon, and I set the command to
however it dosen't display.
I have sudo setup to allow my user to not have to type a password when I use sudo, so I would imagine it would run it as anything else.
I then tried to execute the command via aterm and it spit out this error:
| Code: | | (ROX-Filer:23243): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
I just want to be able to pull rox up as root. Is there another alternative or am I perhaps missing something?
Thanks for the help!
**EDIT**
I ran it using su -c rox / and it worked 
But only if I'm running it within a terminal.
I would like to have it open the rox file manager with / as the root user when I click on the icon if I select to have
it does not work :/
I set it to run in a terminal and it displays the password but then just returns to the prompt rather than executing perhaps I should be using another su type of program? What are some good ones available?
Thanks again!
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