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TheChuckster Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: Gentoo on Nintendo DS? |
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Personally, I think that the Nintendo DS portable gaming system is extremely viable as a Linux PDA. It's $150 price tag is an unbelievable deal for a PDA in general considering its dual backlit LCD screens, its touch screen on the bottom (keyboard anyone?), its 802.11 wireless, its microphone/stereo speakers, its real-time clock, its IO ports, its ARM 5 and 7 CPUs (SMP kernel -- Linux runs on ARM processors), and its long battery life.
I would like to see developers to take interest in porting Familiar, a handheld Linux distro, or a handheld Gentoo Linux to the Nintendo DS. Once how to run arbitrary executable code on the DS is figured out (flash cartridge?), writing a boot loader and drivers for the hardware components is all it will take. I commend any hackers up to the challenge.
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TheChuckster Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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It's a shame that it only has 4 MB of RAM and ~70 MhZ processors. Looks like it may not be possible after all. |
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GenTimJS Guru
Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 406 Location: NH, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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possible: likely so ...
desirable: unlikely so ...
lol, same story as linux on motorola 68k (oldworld macs and stuff) _________________ -Tim Smith |
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TheChuckster Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 91
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Are you kidding me? Who wouldn't love to be able to browse the web, play MP3s, watch movies, run emulators on the best handheld gaming system out there? I can't see how you can compare this to running Linux on an antiquated desktop. |
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mugget n00b
Joined: 05 Mar 2004 Posts: 54 Location: BrisVegas, Australia
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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TheChuckster wrote: | ... run emulators on the best handheld gaming system out there? |
huh? you want to run an emulator on a specifically built handheld game console? that's kind of funny to think about... well it would be better be dual-boot, so you can still play the DS games properly. _________________ G'Day mate |
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Redhatter Retired Dev
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 548 Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Might be worth a try... 70MHz might seem slow, but then again, it may be all you really need.
However, the 4MB RAM is going to be a significant problem. I'd suggest sticking CFLAGS=-Os in your make.conf, and linking against uClibc to keep the size of the binaries down, as every byte of RAM is going to be precious. _________________ Stuart Longland (a.k.a Redhatter, VK4MSL)
I haven't lost my mind - it's backed up on a tape somewhere...
Gentoo/MIPS Cobalt developer, Mozilla herd member. |
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Kumba Developer
Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Posts: 393 Location: Sigma 957
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Gentoo on the DS is a fairy tale right now. In order for that fairy tale to come true, one has to port Linux to the DS by wishing upon a star. Right now, there are several people working diligently upon this "Wishing Upon a Star" bit by building their own spaceships by which to travel to a star to wish upon.
Translated, that means two people specifically, ChaosKnight at dslinux.org and DarkFader are working on an interface between the PC and the DS Cartridges in the hopes of dumping the contents of the games for analysis and understanding the DS boot process.
After this step is completed, there remain many, many, more before Linux will boot on one of these puppies.
--Kumba _________________ "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."
--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic |
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chris... Apprentice
Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 179 Location: Melbourne, AU
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:18 am Post subject: |
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and now 3 years later
linux does run on the ds console
does gentoo work on it? |
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GNUtoo Veteran
Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1919
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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it's uclinux not linux...that means that the cpu doesn't have a mmu...so no swap is possible |
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TheChuckster Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 91
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Gentoo on the DS is a fairy tale right now. In order for that fairy tale to come true, one has to port Linux to the DS by wishing upon a star. |
I guess I believe in fairy tales now. Just noticed this thread today when DS Linux now has wifi, framebuffer console, touchscreen keyboard, and sound. Granted, Gentoo will never run on it, but it's still a huge accomplishment for Malcolm, et al. |
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Requisition Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 117
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