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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://lycos42.free.fr/e17/cvs/e17-leaf.avi

*beware* 1400px large. (half of my laptop screen in height for speed reasons :o)

my last video :)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

R@NNIS wrote:
http://lycos42.free.fr/e17/cvs/e17-leaf.avi

*beware* 1400px large. (half of my laptop screen in height for speed reasons :o)

my last video :)


yeah! nice! do want to/allow us to host it on http://lude.net/edocs/ ?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure :)

you can find some more at http://lycos42.free.fr/e17/cvs/
but this one is the last one :o and the better i think ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah merci beaucoup! cette vidéo est seulement un rêve! :)

i even didn' know about the trick with the clock already! wow!
(had to watch it 3 times to see _everything_ on my 1024x768 .. lol )

it's up now!

erm.. and please tell me/us the trick how you managed to change the background, how the hell (sorry *g*) did you get a transparent eterm???
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hoooly crap, those movies look great. The embedded version especially.
As soon as this hits beta stages I'm going to be all over this. (Only have one computer with a gui at school and can't afford to have it crashing tooo often unfortunately :-\)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

héhé ;)

for the bg just need to change the default theme, you should be able to find default.edc. just change e17_brushed.png to your needs :)

for the transparent term :P it's a trick :D, in fact i Esetroot the same wallpaper that is used on my e17 bg theme :)

Here u go :)


A screenshot if u need :)
http://lycos42.free.fr/screenshots/current/EcvsCurrent.png
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you really tricked me with that!

default.edc .. cool, that worked :)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

R@NNIS wrote:
héhé ;)

for the bg just need to change the default theme, you should be able to find default.edc. just change e17_brushed.png to your needs :)

for the transparent term :P it's a trick :D, in fact i Esetroot the same wallpaper that is used on my e17 bg theme :)

Here u go :)


A screenshot if u need :)
http://lycos42.free.fr/screenshots/current/EcvsCurrent.png


Thanks, but could you be more specific? Where is default.edc? Do you mean editing the source or some config file after e17 has been compiled or installed? Only default I've found is default.eet in /usr/local/share/enlightenment/data/themes. And it's in .eet format so it's impossible to edit. Also, do you know how to use edje to decompile and recompile .eet files? That would be something missing in the current guide.

The edoc project is mostly done now, but there are still small things like this missing. If someone can help, post here or join #edocumentation on freenode.

Here is the current TODO list in case someone wants to help:

1. How to decompile and recompile (it is possible) .eet files with Edje..
2. How to make Entrance NOT open the port 6000 X port, preferably via some config file, or if that's not possible, via editing the source code.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the default.edc can be found in cvs-tree data/themes. then you have to edit default.edc, there are two lines discribing the background image, i also removed the part with the effect over the image, and put in the correct resolution (offset)

then in that dir do a: edje_cc -id images -fd ../fonts/ default.edc default.eet

copy the new default.eet to /usr/local/share/enlightenment/data/themes

and restart.. done

[edit] ^^ lol

ok, for a more understandable explanation check out http://lude.net/edocs/guide.htm#config_background
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gimpel wrote:
the default.edc can be found in cvs-tree data/themes. then you have to edit default.edc, there are two lines discribing the background image, i also removed the part with the effect over the image, and put in the correct resolution (offset)

then in that dir do a: edje_cc -id images -fd ../fonts/ default.edc default.eet

copy the new default.eet to /usr/local/share/enlightenment/data/themes

and restart.. done

[edit] ^^ lol

ok, for a more understandable explanation check out http://lude.net/edocs/guide.htm#config_background
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great stuff! :) Thanks for fixing the eRSS/backround TODO:s. I´m not home right now, so I´ll write this here: the text is 1 revision behind now (I forgot to change the version number, sorry... there are only small changes here and there though... nothing major). Other than that, looks perfect! Perhaps the site will be completed today. I´ll update the todo list on my previous post.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: start engage automatically? Reply with quote

Might be a stupid question, but how do you start engage automatically (along with e17) instead of iconbar?
I've looked around but couldn't find any answer...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When using the ebuilds I can't get ewl to compile, this is the error:

Code:
then mv -f ".deps/ewl_fileselector.Tpo" ".deps/ewl_fileselector.Plo"; else rm -f ".deps/ewl_fileselector.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_init':
ewl_events.c:102: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_KEY_DOWN' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:102: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ewl_events.c:102: error: for each function it appears in.)
ewl_events.c:104: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_KEY_UP' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:106: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_MOUSE_BUTTON_DOWN' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:108: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_MOUSE_BUTTON_UP' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:110: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_MOUSE_MOVE' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_key_down':
ewl_events.c:509: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Key_Down' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:509: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_key_up':
ewl_events.c:537: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Key_Up' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:537: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_mouse_down':
ewl_events.c:567: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Mouse_Button_Down' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:567: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_mouse_up':
ewl_events.c:605: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Mouse_Button_Up' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:605: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_mouse_move':
ewl_events.c:633: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Mouse_Move' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:633: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[2]: *** [ewl_events.lo] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/etox -Os -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -MT ewl_fileselector.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ewl_fileselector.Tpo -c ewl_fileselector.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ewl_fileselector.o
ewl_entry.c:1379: warning: `ewl_entry_timer' defined but not used
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/etox -Os -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -MT ewl_entry.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ewl_entry.Tpo -c ewl_entry.c -o ewl_entry.o >/dev/null 2>&1
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/etox -Os -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -MT ewl_fileselector.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ewl_fileselector.Tpo -c ewl_fileselector.c -o ewl_fileselector.o >/dev/null 2>&1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/ewl-9999 failed.
!!! Function enlightenment_die, Line 66, Exitcode 0
!!! emake failed
!!! SEND BUG REPORTS TO vapier@gentoo.org NOT THE E TEAM
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Anybody got some iedeas?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all,

It is finally time to announce our unofficial e17 documentation site publicly. It should have the answers to all your questions. All e17 components from CVS currently build fine. I just rebuilt all e17 things ~30 minutes ago. So without further ado, the #edocumentation crew are proud to announce that our site is finally complete:

http://lude.net/edocs/

We currently have a large guide for everything concerning e17 and some videos and screenshots of various e17 components.
The site is still lacking some small things, mostly stuff for non-Gentoo distributions. All Gentoo specific instructions are complete, as most writers of the guide are Gentoo users :) If you wish to contribute, contact us @ #edocumentation on freenode irc.

Big thanks to lude for hosting us!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: start engage automatically? Reply with quote

altrent wrote:
Might be a stupid question, but how do you start engage automatically (along with e17) instead of iconbar?
I've looked around but couldn't find any answer...


Engage does not work correctly in e17 yet because it doesn't support fake transparency. If you want to switch off the ibar, that's done via the modules gui. Btw, if your using an old version of Engage, you might want to update it because some optimizations were uploaded to CVS yesturday which should reduce the CPU load.

Update:

Edje .eet compiling and decompiling tutorial/howto/"what is eet and why is it used" guide is no longer needed. It will be on the site once it has been edited etc. The biggest oustanding (apart from the non-Gentoo specific instructions thing) issue now is this:

How to set Entrance to NOT have the X port 6000 open by default.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to compile everything successfully from the 9999 ebuilds except for Evidence is anyone else having problems compiling evidence it looks like a problem with declaring time_t

Running it now though, everything works/looks great!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theBlackDragon wrote:
When using the ebuilds I can't get ewl to compile, this is the error:

Code:
then mv -f ".deps/ewl_fileselector.Tpo" ".deps/ewl_fileselector.Plo"; else rm -f ".deps/ewl_fileselector.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_init':
ewl_events.c:102: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_KEY_DOWN' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:102: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ewl_events.c:102: error: for each function it appears in.)
ewl_events.c:104: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_KEY_UP' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:106: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_MOUSE_BUTTON_DOWN' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:108: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_MOUSE_BUTTON_UP' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:110: error: `ECORE_FB_EVENT_MOUSE_MOVE' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_key_down':
ewl_events.c:509: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Key_Down' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:509: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_key_up':
ewl_events.c:537: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Key_Up' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:537: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_mouse_down':
ewl_events.c:567: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Mouse_Button_Down' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:567: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_mouse_up':
ewl_events.c:605: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Mouse_Button_Up' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:605: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c: In function `ewl_ev_fb_mouse_move':
ewl_events.c:633: error: `Ecore_Fb_Event_Mouse_Move' undeclared (first use in this function)
ewl_events.c:633: error: `ev' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[2]: *** [ewl_events.lo] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/etox -Os -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -MT ewl_fileselector.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ewl_fileselector.Tpo -c ewl_fileselector.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ewl_fileselector.o
ewl_entry.c:1379: warning: `ewl_entry_timer' defined but not used
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/etox -Os -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -MT ewl_entry.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ewl_entry.Tpo -c ewl_entry.c -o ewl_entry.o >/dev/null 2>&1
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/etox -Os -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -MT ewl_fileselector.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ewl_fileselector.Tpo -c ewl_fileselector.c -o ewl_fileselector.o >/dev/null 2>&1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/ewl-9999 failed.
!!! Function enlightenment_die, Line 66, Exitcode 0
!!! emake failed
!!! SEND BUG REPORTS TO vapier@gentoo.org NOT THE E TEAM
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Anybody got some iedeas?


I also get this error, even though I have the ecore 9999 ebuild merged.
Has anyone else had this trouble?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luxus wrote:
whats about a cvs ebuild? nobody here who can create it?

most of the dependant libraries, are in portage alreay, i believe they're marked ~arch
maybe even hardmasked. but i don't think so.
the fact is, try fluidportage, or breakmygentoo if you want cvs ebuilds..
as the general "cvs" isnt even worth making and submitting an ebuild to bugs.gentoo.org
to go into the real portage, only something to clutter it up.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 9999 ebuilds builds from CVS afaik ... so you can just use them, however they are masked so you need to add them to your /etc/portage/package.keywords

here is an example of mine:
Code:

app-misc/examine -*
app-misc/evidence -*
dev-db/edb -*
dev-libs/eet -*
dev-libs/embryo -*
media-gfx/entice -*
media-gfx/elicit -*
media-libs/edje -*
media-libs/epeg -*
media-libs/epsilon -*
media-libs/etox -*
media-libs/imlib2 -*
net-news/erss -*
net-wireless/madwifi-driver - ~x86
x11-libs/ecore -*
x11-libs/esmart -*
x11-libs/evas -*
x11-libs/ewl -*
x11-misc/engage -*
x11-misc/entrance -*
#x11-misc/iconbar -*
x11-misc/iconbar - ~x86
x11-wm/enlightenment -*


then just emerge whatever you need.

hope that helps!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

R@NNIS wrote:
sure :)

you can find some more at http://lycos42.free.fr/e17/cvs/
but this one is the last one :o and the better i think ;)


Very cool!! Once e17 is done, I think it's going to be the coolest vm on earth!

A question, in the eem.avi, is it the embed version of e17? It's really cool! Is it running on a mobile phone? What kind of mobile phone/device can run it? Install a embeded linux and it can run in a mobile phone? (Sorry for not only a question :D )
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="EricHsu"]
R@NNIS wrote:

A question, in the eem.avi, is it the embed version of e17? It's really cool! Is it running on a mobile phone? What kind of mobile phone/device can run it? Install a embeded linux and it can run in a mobile phone? (Sorry for not only a question :D )

it's running on a Sharp Zaurus
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Is it just me, or do the Minimize and restore buttons not have any functionality yet? (I understand this is incomplete software, I am just curious wether or not this is part of the incompleteness)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those interested, here is the entrance theme I have been working on.

Enjoy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZennouRyuu wrote:
Is it just me, or do the Minimize and restore buttons not have any functionality yet? (I understand this is incomplete software, I am just curious wether or not this is part of the incompleteness)

yes, they have no function yet, so you can't minimize anything.


TheGreatPhilHansen wrote:
For those interested, here is the entrance theme I have been working on.

Enjoy
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WOW! looks really good! and works perfect! good work guy!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, I've been thinking about e's l10n since e16. As in e16, IIRC, it uses the old (?) X font rendering system and something like "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to describe fonts. and the most terrible thing is, some of the themes has textclasses.cfg to configure fonts like this:

Code:

#include <definitions>

__E_CFG_VERSION 0

__TCLASS __BGN
        __NAME "TEXT1"
        __NORMAL "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-p-*-microsoft-cp1252,-misc-simsun-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-koi8-r"
        __DRAWING_EFFECT __EFFECT_NONE
        __FORGROUND_COLOR 73 80 96
        __BACKGROUND_COLOR 174 174 174

        __NORMAL_ACTIVE "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-p-*-microsoft-cp1252,-misc-simsun-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-koi8-r"
        __DRAWING_EFFECT __EFFECT_SHADOW
        __FORGROUND_COLOR 0 0 0
        __BACKGROUND_COLOR 174 174 174
        __JUSTIFICATION 512

        [...]


You know, to be able to render characators like Chinese correctly, we should use a Chinese font first. So it means that, some of the l18n work has to be done in the themes...

I've heard that e17 desktop shell supports the fontconfig system now (I see the evidence file manager uses gtk2 widgets), it should be easy to set fonts in their human friendly name like "Bitstream Vera Sans".

Now, I'm wondering, is e17 now uses gnu gettext to support i18n/l10n? So that we can transform *.po to *.mo files, and copy *.mo files to LC_MESSAGES dir and have a totally localized version of e17.

Ok, to make things short: I'm such a big fan of e, and I would like to make a Simplified Chinese version of e17, could anybody tell me where to start?

TIA! :D
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For people wondering about what the .eet/ebd files are and why they are used, this was just added to the site today:

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