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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:05 pm    Post subject: a few first time install questions Reply with quote

I got 2004.3 up and running over the weekend and now I have a few quick questions remaining

1. My X11 runs fine when there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ however when I try to create an xorg.conf file to get my scrollwheel working I have problems getting my videocard to work... Is there any way to look at the default values that are allowing me to start X11 with no xorg.conf file? If I could look at these default values I could figure out what is wrong with the xorg.conf file I am trying to generate...

2. When my computer starts it gives me two error messages, the first is that it was unable to load nvidia-kernel, the second is that it is unable to bring up eth0...
I can run
Code:
modprobe 8139too
dhcpcd

and get eth0 to work, and since X11 is starting up (without xorg.conf) I can only assume that my nvidia drivers are in fact working, so i don't know where the error is coming from...

Any ideas how I can fix these two errors?

Thank you for your time!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there might be some values which could help you.

2) try adding "8139too" to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 or kernel-2.4.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

internuggler,

Your X is running with the lowest common denominator.
It will be 640 x 480 with the vga driver in 8 bit colour.
Your nVidia modules will not be being used.
Code:
man xorg.conf
will expalin what all the options do but I suggest you use it as a reference only, since most options will be of no interest whatsoever.
Try running xorgcfg to genrate your config file.
Do not call up the nvidia driver yet - use nv which is right for an nVidia card as a get -u-going option.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: a few first time install questions Reply with quote

Let's see...

internuggler wrote:
2. When my computer starts it gives me two error messages, the first is that it was unable to load nvidia-kernel, the second is that it is unable to bring up eth0...

Yoy have to be a bit more exact, could you post the output on this errors?
For eth you will have to

emerge coldplug && rc-update add coldplug boot

maybe thats your problem with nvidia too, but if you run into any other trouble with X let we know.

internuggler wrote:
...since X11 is starting up (without xorg.conf) I can only assume that my nvidia drivers are in fact working, so i don't know where the error is coming from...


That's an erratic assumption. If nvidia kernel modules says it is not loading that means that it is not loading, if you post the error (at least part of it) maybe i'll be able to help you. Since you are not using a 'made per your system' xorg.conf it's unprobable that X knows anything about nvidia kernel module. Anyway you'll have to use a xorg.conf file to get the nvidia driver and the wheel working, amongst many other things.

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If the above does not work:

Try an autogenerated xorg.conf and after that post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file (or sumthin' like that). To know your screen model & graphics card model will also be of so much help. You will need a xorg.conf, since whitout it you won't be able to use 3d accel nor mouse wheel, amongst many other things.

If the above works:

Edit xorg.conf file, comment

Load "glCore"
Load "dri"

if present so it looks

# Load "glCore"
# Load "dri"

And make also sure that

Load "glx"

line is present, otherwise you wont get any 3d acceleration. If any doubt we are here, 'till then.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you corsair,
After looking at /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6

I figured out the cause of my two error messages...

I needed to add the 8139too line to the file, and the nvidia-kernel error was caused by my previously placing a line with nvidia-kernel in this file, which was not needed as I built this module into my kernel...

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

internuggler,

You can't build nvdia-kernel into your kernel. Its a binary module, distributed outside of the kernel and can only be installed after the kernel install is complete.
The nvidia-kernel module is called nvidia.ko and can be found in /lib/modules/<kernel-ver>/video/ when its properly installed.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if this helps; http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of my favorite ways to skate through the drudgery of configuring X11 is to cheat at it -- i use a knoppix CD and let it do the autodetection for me. then i copy the knoppix config file and rename it as xorg.conf. then, all that you need to do, if anything, is a little tweaking. there's a mini-HowTo on how to do this in Documentation, Tips and Tricks.
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