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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

WOuld like to thank the started of this topic. It helped me alot, I have a cisco 350 , and it worked perfectly after following this tutorial. One thing tho, one does not need the ds in /etc/modules.autoload.

Why do I say this ? BEcause my wireless pcmcia card works ferfectly without it. :-)

Any help or suggestions as too why this is so ?

thx again.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me reiterate what others have said... thanks much charlieg for this excellent how-to. Helped me get everything running in record time. :D
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2003 4:38 am    Post subject: Dlink DWL 650L2 Reply with quote

Hi,
Maybe this is not the correct place to post this, but since I searched the forums and didn't find a similar post, I thought I would post it here. I used to run Mandrake 9.1 for some time, but now have been installing Gentoo since yesterday (right now its compiling open office) and would now want to get wireless working. I have an Inspiron 4150 with a Dell Truemobile 1180 (for which there is no linux driver at the moment). So I bought a Dlink DWL 650L2, card bus pcmcia card (where L2 is the hardware version number). I found out that it uses the ADMTek 8211 Chipset. On contacting the manufacturer they emailed me the source code to the module. I got the wireless working eventually but after having to copy the module in the lot of places and even after that I kept getting wierd error messages. The worst part being that I would have to manually type "iwconfig" followed by "dhclient" as root, to get on the network. My question is that since my card is not supported by pcmcia-cs, how should I proceed about getting it working under Gentoo. Should I emerge pcmcia-cs / compile pcmcia support in kernel (2.4.20-gentoo-r4) besides compiling my own module.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2003 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Dlink DWL 650L2 Reply with quote

swimgeek wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this is not the correct place to post this, but since I searched the forums and didn't find a similar post, I thought I would post it here. I used to run Mandrake 9.1 for some time, but now have been installing Gentoo since yesterday (right now its compiling open office) and would now want to get wireless working. I have an Inspiron 4150 with a Dell Truemobile 1180 (for which there is no linux driver at the moment). So I bought a Dlink DWL 650L2, card bus pcmcia card (where L2 is the hardware version number). I found out that it uses the ADMTek 8211 Chipset. On contacting the manufacturer they emailed me the source code to the module. I got the wireless working eventually but after having to copy the module in the lot of places and even after that I kept getting wierd error messages. The worst part being that I would have to manually type "iwconfig" followed by "dhclient" as root, to get on the network. My question is that since my card is not supported by pcmcia-cs, how should I proceed about getting it working under Gentoo. Should I emerge pcmcia-cs / compile pcmcia support in kernel (2.4.20-gentoo-r4) besides compiling my own module.

thanks in advance.

Well, to start with you could put 'iwconfig' and 'dhclient' into /etc/conf.d/locat.start.

It might be worth contacting the pcmcia-cs team to find out why they don't support that chipset.

Sadly :( I'm not the expert that this how-to might make me out to be. It was only a translation of my own experiences getting pcmcia to work on two laptops. Shortly after I succeeded, they both died a sad death as old laptops do, so I don't even have a pcmcia setup to test anymore.

Anyway, wrt to your last question, I would try the kernel pcmcia first. It stands to reason that if you have been given a kernel module for your pcmcia card then it'll appear there. If it's a kernel patch, I'd patch the kernel with the source they gave you then 'make menuconfig' and it might be there. In the more likely circumstance that it's not, compile it and put it in the appropriate place and then just enable it as a module by putting the module name into /etc/modules.autoload.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I'll try following your suggestions. Besides I read the modules-howto yesterday, so I now have some more idea, as to how to go about getting this thing working.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2003 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANK YOU .... I did what you said and Walla... net work cards working nicley... well kinda... if you got any ideas for setting up the ESSID that needs to be defined let me know....

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 5:13 am    Post subject: help Reply with quote

I followed the instruction, and when it boots up, it said:

can not located orinoco_cs module.

Should it comes with pcmcia_cs?

I am using netgear MA401

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great guide! Used this as a reference for settig up my WPC11. :D
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: help Reply with quote

jackrabbit wrote:
I followed the instruction, and when it boots up, it said:

can not located orinoco_cs module.

Should it comes with pcmcia_cs?

I am using netgear MA401

Hmm, according to the list of supported cards, the NetGear Ma401RA is supported by the "[orinoco_cs driver] [x86,axp,ppc,smp]".

Do 'ls -l /usr/src/linux' and check it is pointing to the Linux kernel that you have installed. If not, 'ln -sf /usr/src/linux-your-version /usr/src/linux' and re-emerge pcmcia-cs and 'modprobe orinoco_cs'.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: help Reply with quote

charlieg wrote:
jackrabbit wrote:
I followed the instruction, and when it boots up, it said:

can not located orinoco_cs module.

Should it comes with pcmcia_cs?

I am using netgear MA401

Hmm, according to the list of supported cards, the NetGear Ma401RA is supported by the "[orinoco_cs driver] [x86,axp,ppc,smp]".

Do 'ls -l /usr/src/linux' and check it is pointing to the Linux kernel that you have installed. If not, 'ln -sf /usr/src/linux-your-version /usr/src/linux' and re-emerge pcmcia-cs and 'modprobe orinoco_cs'.


I have only one kernel souce, the link is correct. Re-emerged pcmcia-cs,

Code:
modprobe orinoco_cs


Can't locate module orinoco_cs

I went to /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/pcmcia, can not find this module.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 6:56 pm    Post subject: Kernel Settings Reply with quote

You might want to check your kernel settings to make sure that hot-pluggable devices is disable under General Setup. Also, make sure you've enabled wirlesss suppport under Network Devices (don't select any drivers, though)
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:08 am    Post subject: cisco 350 permisicous Reply with quote

Has anyone trited to put a cisco 350 into permisicous so that they could use kismet with it, if so could you please post your experinces, I am having a great deal of trouble trying to get my cards (compaq WL110(aka orinoco gold, and cisco 350)) working with kismet.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:08 am    Post subject: cisco 350 permisicous Reply with quote

Has anyone trited to put a cisco 350 into permisicous so that they could use kismet with it, if so could you please post your experinces, I am having a great deal of trouble trying to get my cards (compaq WL110(aka orinoco gold, and cisco 350)) working with kismet.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:16 am    Post subject: cisco 350 permisicous Reply with quote

Has anyone trited to put a cisco 350 into permisicous so that they could use kismet with it, if so could you please post your experinces, I am having a great deal of trouble trying to get my cards (compaq WL110(aka orinoco gold, and cisco 350)) working with kismet.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:18 am    Post subject: shit oops Reply with quote

shit oops sorry, did not realize i posted more then once. Never made that mistake before and will make sure I dont do it again.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 4:32 am    Post subject: Almost sucess, but ... Reply with quote

I have reinstalled the system and followed the instruction here.

Now when I boot the machine, it can load module ds and i82365 well, but complains orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o some unresolve problem during the boot up. During the bootup, it beeps twice, one high and one low.

If I run iwconfig, it can not find my wireless card.
# iwconfig
lo no wireless extensions.

eth0 no wireless extensions.

I think it is close to sucess, anyone can give me a hint?

BTW, I have copied net.eth0 to net.eth1, and added entry for eth1 in /etc/conf.d/net.

THanks,
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2003 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody can kindly give me a hint? THanks,
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2003 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the ebuild output:
pcmcia-cs ebuild wrote:
"Proper kernel config for this package is that PCMCIA/CardBus under General Setup is off and Wireless LAN (non-ham radio) is on but no modules or drivers turned on under Network Device Support if you have wireless."

Did you do that, jackrabbit?
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2003 7:33 pm    Post subject: pcmcia Reply with quote

This should really really be in a HOWTO. Setting up pcmcia (even for someone with 6 months of experience with linux) is a PITA. There should also be a HOWTO with wireless cards and normal NIC cards on the same machine.

Right now my dmesg output is giving me this:

Code:

Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22
  options: [pci][cardbus][pm]
ds: no socket drivers loaded!


Code:

* Calculating module dependencies
*  Loading module i82365...
*  Failed to load i82365

*   Loading modue ds...
*   Failed to load ds

*   Loading modue 3c574_cs...
*   Failed to load 3c754_cs

*   Loading modue orinoco_cs...
*   Failed to load orinoco_cs
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great info here but it's not helping my problem :\. i've got a NetGear FA411 (pcnet_cs not natsemi according to pcmcia-cs list) and no matter what i do (recompiled my kernel a few times and i'm still not terribly sure which NIC driver i'm supposed to select), it still doesn't work. anyone got any ideas, i'm going to start pulling out what little hair i have pretty soon.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

foshdawg wrote:
great info here but it's not helping my problem :\. i've got a NetGear FA411 (pcnet_cs not natsemi according to pcmcia-cs list) and no matter what i do (recompiled my kernel a few times and i'm still not terribly sure which NIC driver i'm supposed to select), it still doesn't work. anyone got any ideas, i'm going to start pulling out what little hair i have pretty soon.

Well, um, your comment reads like you've not read the doc properly.

You don't compile any drivers into the kernel! Go back to the doc (the first post in this thread) and read it again, thoroughly!
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, please excuse my ignorance. I am fairly new to the gentoo distro (and not so hot in any other distro!).

I have a xircom pcmcia card that worked during gentoo install, and by following some topics on this forum I was able to get it working after install/reboot. I thought I was hot stuff and decided to install ALSA. That's when my nightmare started.

I can no longer load xirc2ps_cs. PCMCIA loads at boot, as do i82365 and ds, but cardmgr fails to load my net card. When I modprobe or insmod xirc2ps_cs it complains of several unresolved symbols.

I've tried this documentation, and several others in this forum without any luck! I'm not sure what other information I can give.

Please help!

Thanx!
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your work! System is now "up" and "running" :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A really nice HOWTO, i much appreciate your effort for this :)

There's only one thing that's missing IMHO...

To get an Orinoco card in Monitor-mode (for netstumbling/wardriving) with Kismet, you need to patch the pcmcia-cs drivers after untarring it, and before starting to compile it (./configure)... Normally this shouldn't be a problem, though emerge does it all in one time, so without patching the drivers in between, so via this way you can't go wardrivin' with it :(

Now what i did is install the pcmcia-cs drivers by hand, works for me... though most people would like to just emerge it i think ;)

If you're going to try to write a second HOWTO or whatsoever includes what i'm trying to describe above, you should also know that pcmcia-cs-3.2.3 is the last version that works with the 3.2.1 patch available, patching pcmcia-cs-3.2.4 with it will fail!

end of that story (few!)
===============================================

Next subject, i went wardriving a few hours ago, but getting an IP from a DHCP-server running somewhere behind the AP i was connected to, didn't work... After using "/etc/init.d/net.eth1 (re)start" it takes a while (the leds of my Orinoco Silver blink short (once) about every 5 seconds or so) and after a minute or so it just fails :(

So the point is, it CAN connect to the Access Point (it see's the ESSID, the MAC-address of the Acess Point and it gave a Bit Rate of 2Mb/s...
Giving it a static IP in /etc/conf.d/net does give it an IP, though it can't even ping itself with it :(

One thing that i find very strange, is that the first line after "eth1" in iwconfig, starts with: IEEE 802.11-DS, shouldn't this be 802.11b (wich is the official WLAN protocol as far as i can tell) :?:

I'm using the linux-2.4.20 (Vanilla) kernel, patched with ALSA, ACPI, Quickcam VC drivers, and now also patched with pcmcia-cs, wich is, on his turn, patched with the monitor patch from this site...

Well i hope someone can help me or has something else to say according to my post here, bring it on :twisted:
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