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 Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: DRI & Radeon 9600 & xorg6.8?? |
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I am a little confused with what I have read in these forums with all this radeon rubbish....
Also I have followed the Gentoo Radeon How to but am still a little confused.....
I have emerged the ati-drivers, but cannot get DRI to work what ever I try, I have tried a few things that are in other posts but with still no avail...
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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To sum things up:
Current drivers + Xorg 6.7: OK
Current drivers + Xorg 6.8: will not work
New drivers + Xorg 6.8: OK
Unfortunately the release date for these new drivers has now been moved back to mid January - they should have been out in December.
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I don't know all too much either, but from what I have learned, and just to be sure, is that you do not need ati-drivers if you have the 2.6 kernel. You can add support for DRI and DRM in menuconfig.
When I first installed Gentoo, I used 2.6 kernel, along with the ati-drivers because I didn't know what the hell I was doing. It didn't work out so well 
I just successfully installed Gentoo onto my laptop which has a Radeon IGP card in it and it's working great.
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Phonics3k
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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ok then DRI and kernel 2.6, explain please..
I have a laptop with a Nvidia Graphics card in it and it runs americas-army alot better than my PC does (which is insane).
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| johnnyICON wrote: | | I don't know all too much either, but from what I have learned, and just to be sure, is that you do not need ati-drivers if you have the 2.6 kernel. You can add support for DRI and DRM in menuconfig. |
Unfortunately that's not quite true. Newer ATI cards (R9500,R9600,R9700,R9800 and the X-series) are not supported fully by the in-kernel radeon driver, so you won't get 3D acceleration. The only option for these cards is the binary ATI driver.
| Phonics3k wrote: | | I have a laptop with a Nvidia Graphics card in it and it runs americas-army alot better than my PC does (which is insane). |
nvidia has better performance than ATI under Linux, often by quite some margin. It's up to ATI to improve the performance of their drivers.
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Phonics3k
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:33 am Post subject: |
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so installing that rpm off the ATi website will give me 3d performance?
lol well i think I will just go without 3D support until I can build it myself, the whole point of me using gentoo is to totally optimise, and installing some bullsh*t i386 rpm is gonna screw it up.
Ahwell will have to play it on my laptop then.... 
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| Phonics3k wrote: | | so installing that rpm off the ATi website will give me 3d performance? |
Yes, but you'll need to downgrade to Xorg 6.7 first.
| Phonics3k wrote: | | lol well i think I will just go without 3D support until I can build it myself, the whole point of me using gentoo is to totally optimise, and installing some bullsh*t i386 rpm is gonna screw it up. |
There is absolutely no difference between emerging ati-drivers and installing the RPM manually - everything that isn't precompiled gets compiled either way. Don't be so focused on optimisation.
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Phonics3k
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Don't be so focused on optimisation.
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LOL! cant help it soz..
ok I will go back to xorg6.7
This wont break my kde will it?
and what do I do?
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#emerge --unmerge xorg-x11
#emerge xorg-x11-6.7 -av
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soz not in the house at the moment so dont know the actual version..
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It shouldn't affect KDE at all. Run this command to install the latest version of Xorg 6.7: | Code: | | emerge \<xorg-x11-6.8.0 |
That tells portage to install the first version lower than 6.8.0, whatever it is. You can unmerge the current version first if you want to, but I don't think it should matter.
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cheers wedge I will do that when I get in....
I think I will uninstall xorg 6.8 and the ati-drivers and just emerge xorg6.7 then ati-drivers..
I should have DRI support then should I?
all i want todo is play americas-army but not on windoze or my laptop...
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| Phonics3k wrote: | cheers wedge I will do that when I get in....
I think I will uninstall xorg 6.8 and the ati-drivers and just emerge xorg6.7 then ati-drivers..
I should have DRI support then should I? |
Well, yes, theoretically, but it's often not as simple as just installing the driver and starting X. If you have problems check the FAQ and if that doesn't help post back here.
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ok, I will make sure my xorg.conf is all up to date and then if I have any problems I will post here after reading FAQ
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