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EWQ222 n00b
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 30 Location: Colorado USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: Strange Freeze |
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After using my computer for about an hour weither I am on it or not and when I am in Gentoo (gnome) my computer randomly freezes and locks up everything, the strange part is the caps lock and scroll lock lights on my keyboard blink on and off on and off over and over again. Im forced to reset it without using a keyboard. Is this a common problem or am I special in this one? _________________ Never give up, Never Surrender - Galaxy Quest
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neilhwatson l33t
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 719 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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A peice of hardware may be failing. Are there any interesting entires in the log files prior to the lockup? _________________ The true guru is a teacher.
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EWQ222 n00b
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 30 Location: Colorado USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know the log files that well, what should I look at? _________________ Never give up, Never Surrender - Galaxy Quest
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daniel_s n00b
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 30
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject: Oops |
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Sounds like a kernel panic ;\
I'm not really sure where to go from here, I just know I've seen those lights and they meant kernel panic for me. |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Does it happen any faster if the system is under heavy load? Such as a compile loop? _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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EWQ222 n00b
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 30 Location: Colorado USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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It doesnt happen any faster. I tested this one left my computer on for a long time just idling, and it wasnt frozen, it was at my screensaver, moved the mouse and it froze. I also have played games on it, 3d games and it seems to freeze in about the same amount of time, Im going to time it, perhaps that has something to do with it but I am doubting. _________________ Never give up, Never Surrender - Galaxy Quest
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dohko Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 112 Location: São Paulo - Brasil
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Hi all,
I have similar simptoms here.
I turned on my computer and kept testing dosbox with old games to see if it worked fine. I kept doing that for about two hours (which means very heavy cpu load for 2 hours, but that's nothing compared to compiling kde). Then I stopped testing it and started doing an emerge world.
I was emerging world in a tty (I usually let things emerging in ttys). Some kde application crashed while I was ending my kde session (don't remember which app) and X restarted. Since I wasn't going to use X anymore, I stopped it.
After some minutes of compilation (no more than 5) my system hanged entirely: no keyboard. I couldn't even use the magic syskeys to reboot. At this point, the kbd caps, scroll and num lights were not blinking.
I restarted the system manually. Log into kde. While I was examining the kernel log for strange entries, the system hanged up again just as badly as the other time.
Another reboot. On start up, the computer rebooted during the init proccess!! I started worrying about hardware problems, maybe the power source.
As a final try, I booted a live cd (kurumin) and it halted during boot (specifically while kudzu was configuring stuff) and the caps and scroll lights started blinking.
Ok, here is the first question: when the 3 kbd lights blinks, it's a kernel panic. What does it mean when only the caps and scroll blink?
While I'm writing this at another machine, I'm waiting for the other computer hardware to get colder in a desperate thoght that it could be a temperature problem..... No, it hangs just after a few minutes of usage.
Ok, now it's worse: my computer hanged while I was checking the bios config. That's definitely a hardware problem isn't it? Any ideas of what could it possibly be? |
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gentoo_lan l33t
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 891 Location: Charles Town, WV
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Does your motherboard give any kind of beep warnings after the post? |
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dohko Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 112 Location: São Paulo - Brasil
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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gentoo_lan wrote: | Does your motherboard give any kind of beep warnings after the post? |
No, it doesn't. It just gives the default beep that means things are fine.
I powered up the machine today and entered bios setup to watch CPU temperature. It increased to 59oC and stabilized. Then I started my system to try it with a heavy load. Unfortunatelly, sensors doesn't support my asus motherboard, so I couldn't keep monitoring CPU temp.
After the emerge finished, I rebooted to see the temperature measurements in bios setup and it was around 63oC. I started gentoo again and things seem to be stable now.
I'm tempted to conclude that it was a CPU overheating, though I don't overclock it (athlon-tbird 1.2GHz). AFAIK, the unexplainable immediate system freeze (not even kernel panic blinking lights) could be caused by that. Concerning to the unintentional reboot I experienced, it could be Athlon's thermal protection against overheating.
Does that sound reasonable?
Thanks! |
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dojan n00b
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:14 am Post subject: |
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dohko, did you ever find the answer to your problem?
i'm getting the same error here.
i got a athlon-xp, i used the livecd install-x86-universal-2004.3-r1 and stage3-athlon-xp-2004.3 |
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dohko Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 112 Location: São Paulo - Brasil
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Hi dojan
dojan wrote: | dohko, did you ever find the answer to your problem? |
My problem was really the chip temperature. The weather here has gotten a little colder and the chip stays at 64 oC. It doesn't freeze anymore at this temperature. However, I'll need to get a new cooler very soon.
I'd suggest that you make sure you have exactly the same problem (open you case and try putting some external thing to cool it down like a ventilator) since you'd have to make changes to the hardware if it's really cpu temperature. It's much likely that you'll need a more powerfull cooler. |
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