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Zyos
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 Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject: What to do now? |
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I am so lost. I just finished the installing gentoo section of the handbook.
First question: When you insert the packages cd and input
are those the packages? Some of the stuff that shows up is
app-admin
app-arch
dev-cpp
net-mail
kde-base
Whenever I try to emerge these packages it says that the ebuild cannot be found. This is the syntax I used to emerge
| Code: | | emerge --usepkg app admin |
the only thing that it would let me emerge is kde, which i used this syntax
| Code: | | emerge --usepkg kde |
that is the exact code from the book. But when i rebooted it is not fully functional. It just has boxes entitled "login" "xterm" "clock".
Now I just figured that I needed to proceed to the section "Working with Gentoo". So I went on and the first thing it told me I should do required to access the internet. So that didn't work out because I am performing a networkless installation.
I am so friggin lost, you have no idea. Can someone please tell me something I am doing wrong or something I need to do to get gentoo fully functionall? |
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DarkMatter
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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You need to copy the packages you want into /usr/portage/packages/.
Those directories you see in the cdrom are categories, the actual packages are in sub-directories. |
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masseya
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: What to do now? |
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| Zyos wrote: | | I am so lost. I just finished the installing gentoo section of the handbook. |
Grats! You got further than I did before I was poking people for help. 
| Quote: | First question: When you insert the packages cd and input
are those the packages? Some of the stuff that shows up is
app-admin
app-arch
dev-cpp
net-mail
kde-base |
These are directories of ebuilds. A 'package' in gentoo comes in two main parts. The ebuild file that tells it how to install and the distfile which is the actual source that gets compiled and installed. There are also precompiled packages that take the place of the distfiles. This is what is on the packages cd.
| Quote: | Whenever I try to emerge these packages it says that the ebuild cannot be found. This is the syntax I used to emerge
| Code: | | emerge --usepkg app admin |
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That's because there is no app-admin package. That is a directory of packages.
| Quote: | the only thing that it would let me emerge is kde, which i used this syntax
| Code: | | emerge --usepkg kde |
that is the exact code from the book. But when i rebooted it is not fully functional. It just has boxes entitled "login" "xterm" "clock". |
I'm not entirely sure where you are in the installation process at this point, but it sounds like you are getting to the KDE login screen but you don't have a user created. If you have not created a user (other than root) you should do that so you can login to KDE. (man useradd for more info)
| Quote: | Now I just figured that I needed to proceed to the section "Working with Gentoo". So I went on and the first thing it told me I should do required to access the internet. So that didn't work out because I am performing a networkless installation.
I am so friggin lost, you have no idea. Can someone please tell me something I am doing wrong or something I need to do to get gentoo fully functionall? |
It's natural to be lost at first. I would recommend just reading the Working with Gentoo and Working with Portage sections without doing anything to your system. Don't worry about understanding everything they are asking you to do at every step as you read them. The point of reading them all the way through first is to give you an idea about the big picture before you start getting into details.
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DarkMatter
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, it sounds like you don't have kde enabled in your /etc/rc.conf. To have kde start when you start X do the following:
1. Look in /etc/X11/Sessions
2. One of the files in this directory should be named kde-<version>
3. edit /etc/rc.conf
4. find the line that says XSESSION=...
5. Change this to XSESSION=kde-<version> (the name of the file in /etc/X11/Sessions)
Make sure that you uncomment the line too (i.e. there is no # in front of it) |
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DarkMatter
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Zyos
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| ok cool, thank you everyone who responds. I will not be on the computer with gentoo until tomorrow. But from what you guys have recomended sounds like it is right. Thanks alot guys. I will respond to tell if it worked or not. |
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Zyos
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Ok so I tried to emerge this package app-admin/fam-2.7.0.tbz2. Can someone please verify if this is a package?
And what is the proper syntax to use to emerge this?
this is the syntax I used and i got an error message
| Code: | | emerge --usekpg /mnt/cdrom/app-admin/fam-2.7.0.tbz2 |
and got this error
| Code: | | you need to adjust PKGDIR to emerge this package |
then I used this syntax
| Code: | | emerge --usepkg /app-admin/fam-2.7.0.tbz2 |
and ended up with this error
| Code: | | Binary package does not exist |
I got fam-2.7.0.tbz2 when I looked at what was in the director app-admin on the packages disk. |
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zit
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:28 am Post subject: |
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What about a simple:
| Quote: | | emerge --usepkg fam |
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Zyos
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks man that worked. |
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zit
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:58 am Post subject: |
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My pleasure, Zyos  |
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Zyos
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:53 am Post subject: Re: What to do now? |
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| masseya wrote: | | I'm not entirely sure where you are in the installation process at this point, but it sounds like you are getting to the KDE login screen but you don't have a user created. If you have not created a user (other than root) you should do that so you can login to KDE. (man useradd for more info) |
here are some pics i took of my monitor to show you what i am talking about. After I installed everything in the kde-base directory on the 2004.3 packages cd i still get this when i startx while logged in my username. i am not logged in as root.
http://img117.exs.cx/img117/7041/im0014360ag.jpg
http://img117.exs.cx/img117/5369/im0014376lo.jpg
also what is the directory i am supposed to extract the packages. i haven't specified where to extract everything in the installation so i am not sure if it is going to the right place.
What else do I have to emerge to be able to use my gentoo system. |
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safeness
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This should get you going:
| DarkMatter wrote: | Actually, it sounds like you don't have kde enabled in your /etc/rc.conf. To have kde start when you start X do the following:
1. Look in /etc/X11/Sessions
2. One of the files in this directory should be named kde-<version>
3. edit /etc/rc.conf
4. find the line that says XSESSION=...
5. Change this to XSESSION=kde-<version> (the name of the file in /etc/X11/Sessions)
Make sure that you uncomment the line too (i.e. there is no # in front of it) |
Once you get kde going (and after you modify /etc/rc.conf) you can have kde start up when you turn your computer on by typing this as root | Code: | | rc-update add xdm default |
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DarkMatter
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Although you probably don't want to be using xdm to login (it's ugly). If you're using kde you'll want to use kdm. To use this, follow safeness' instruction and then edit the /etc/rc.conf file again. Change the line that says "DISPLAYMANAGER=xdm" to "DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm". |
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masseya
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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DarkMatter and safeness are probably right. KDE is more than likely installed fine, but it's not starting up because it's not the default specified in /etc/rc.conf. Making the changes they have suggested would do that.
More info is availible at the gentoo KDE configuration doc. Step 3 is basically what DarkMatter and safeness have posted.
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