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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: Looking for a new browser ... Reply with quote

Eh guys, i'm looking for some alternatives to Mozilla Firefox since i think Firefox is still too ... "overloaded". I also did a test. I followed the superlight-kde tutorial and installed Konqueror with some other programs. Now i noticed, that Firefox takes about 10 MB Ram while Konqueror just takes about ~6. Don't understand me wrong, I just like compares.

Since i'm a fluxbox user I don't really like KDE, so i wanted to know if emerging kdebase bloats the system up or if KDE interferes in the rest of the system.

When i searched the forum for equivalent threads i found one where somebody said that emerging mozilla (full) without irc, mail etc. is as fast as firefox. Has anyone tried this out? By the way, how can i say portage not to compile the other plugins? Emerge mozilla shows me this:

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net-www/mozilla-1.7.5  +crypt -debug +gnome +java -ldap -mozdevelop -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -mozxmlterm +ssl -xinerama -xprint 0 kB


But there is no USE-Flag for moznoirc and so on ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, i think firefox is unstable.

i think mozilla without irc, mail, etc. is much faster than firefox. that's what i use when i'm not using elinks.

your current use flags look okay. they must've taken out the irc part of mozilla, so it's no longer an option.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you don't know any other alternatives, don't you? I would wish me a browser fast as links -g but with better website-appearence.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's galeon or epiphany which some people claim are faster, but i think it's the same as using the stripped down mozilla (they use the same html rendering engine). you might try dillo, but it's not much better than links -g. there's also w3m, which is a text browser that can display images.. pretty trippy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try opera it's very faster, light and block really spy answer more than firefox or mozilla do. it is independant about lib( no need kde, gnome or other). opera doesn't support video mplayer plugin ( for video asf,mov,wmv,avi etc...) like do mozilla or firefox so if you don't need multimedia opera is the best (flashplayer is ok), instead i think mozilla still better with multimedia.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but opera is commercial software.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

opera is free-as-in-beer. You can pay for it, and it displays text adds if you don't. That's really its only problem though, fine peice of software...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dillo?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried it out, it's a really fast browser but the representation is as bad as in links -g. There's another browser, called amaya with just 8 mb, but i'm getting a compile error.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coin wrote:
I tried it out, it's a really fast browser but the representation is as bad as in links -g. There's another browser, called amaya with just 8 mb, but i'm getting a compile error.

What sites were you trying it on? I use it as my primary browser and there's only one site in recent memory where it didn't work (the compare notebooks page at alienware iirc), but Firefox didn't work there either.
In case you were trying to use 7.54, use 8.0 beta 1 instead as it's just much better in every single respect, including stability.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push it on you or anything; just puzzled that it works for me and didn't for you.)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean it can't display div-container rightly. For example, try www.absinthe182.com in Firefox and then in Dillo. Can you now see the difference? :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coin... FF takes only 10 megs of RAM?! That must be a record low...

Konqueror actually takes more RAM, it just preloads an instance. IIRC there's a launcher that lets you do the same with Mozilla.

Edit: Perhaps you'd like Skipstone? There's a ~arch masked ebuild that works with mozilla 1.7.x...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try the new opera 8.0 Beta 1!! best browser today I think!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Coin... FF takes only 10 megs of RAM?! That must be a record low...

10 megs? i started it up and right off the bat it was using 28M. if i left it open and browsed with it, it'd be using over 50M in no time.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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David Hallowell, a Mozilla contributor, said one of the primary goals for Firefox 1.1 is to improve the browsing experience for non-Windows users. "One of the main aims of 1.1 is to improve the user experience for users on Linux and Mac machines so that they can have a version of Firefox that fits in with their operating system as well as the Windows version fits in with the Windows OS," Hallowell said.


http://torrentspy.com/default.asp#Firefox%201.1%20delayed

so they DO realize the linux version sucks.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firefox is my main browser. I do suggest trying mozilla without any of the mail/calendar/etc. Its supposed to be fast. i like Firefox cause it only takes 14 MB of RAM
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coin wrote:
I mean it can't display div-container rightly. For example, try www.absinthe182.com in Firefox and then in Dillo. Can you now see the difference? :)

D'oh. I thought you were talking about Opera. Didn't notice the post just above yours. Never mind then, never tried dillo.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gullible Jones wrote:

Edit: Perhaps you'd like Skipstone? There's a ~arch masked ebuild that works with mozilla 1.7.x...


Woohoo! Thanks! I've tried out SkipStone now and it has still some bugs, but i can say it's anyway worth it! Guys, try this browser out!
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