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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: alternative zu Realplayer? Reply with quote

Hi, gibt es eigentlich irgendeine möglichkeit mir real video/audio streams anzuhören ohne den buggy (und deshalb masked) realplayer auf die Platte zu hauen?

also sozusagen eine free-variante die nicht masked ist...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: alternative zu Realplayer? Reply with quote

bröggle wrote:
[...] ohne den buggy (und deshalb masked) realplayer auf die Platte zu hauen?


Masked muss nicht unbedingt buggy heißen. Der RealOne läuft bei mir stabil (auch wenn er ziemlich hässlich ist).


Eine Alternative wäre vielleicht VLC mit der live-Bibliothek.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK sind realplayer und realone wegen Sicherheitslücken maskiert, insofern weiß ich nicht, ob es eine so gute Idee ist, sich die Dinger zu installieren.

Dann ist es wahrscheinlich besser sich gleich bei real den neuen player, der noch nicht im portage ist, herunterzuladen und zu installieren. Das Ding ist nämlich auch noch hübscher.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi

Ich benutze gxine (wird auch wider weiterentwickelt) oder
mplayer mit useflag live und real

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Habe heute ebenfalls was gesucht und festgestellt das Real ja masked ist...mal fix auf der Homepage geschaut und schaue da es gibt ja Version 10 :)
http://www.real.com/linux/

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ui, hab den mir auch installiert. Im Gegensatz zu den Vorgängerversionen ein Traum! Da muss man Real doch direkt mal loben! :)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ab ins portage damit!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Der neue RealPlayer (Version 10) läuft auch auf x86_64.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wozu realplayer?

emerge win32codecs mplayer

gegebenenfalls USE flag auf real setzen (weiß jetzt nicht genau ob die standardmäßig gesetzt ist)
übrigens gilt für quicktime-videos dasselbe (USE-flag quicktime)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@shivakjo
weil es irgendwie nicht funzt ;-(

Ich wollte mir das Lied 'Lonely'-von Akon anhören (geiles lied!!) aber mplayer lässt mich ned :/
Quote:
bash-2.05b$ mplayer http://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com/_pop/_ram/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.ram
MPlayer 1.0pre5try2-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team

CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred 1800 MHz (Family: 6, Stepping: 1)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
MMX supported but disabled
MMX2 supported but disabled
SSE supported but disabled
3DNow supported but disabled
3DNowExt supported but disabled
CPUflags: MMX: 0 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions:

Reading config file /usr/share/mplayer/mplayer.conf
Reading config file /home/peter/.mplayer/config
Reading /home/peter/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open '/home/peter/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Reading /usr/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 73 audio & 180 video codecs
font: can't open file: /home/peter/.mplayer/font/font.desc
Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206 chars)
Using usleep() timing
Can't open input config file /home/peter/.mplayer/input.conf: No such file or directory
Input config file /usr/share/mplayer/input.conf parsed: 53 binds

Playing http://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com/_pop/_ram/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.ram.
Option stream url: This URL doesn't have a hostname part.
File not found: '_pop/_ram/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.ram'
Failed to open http://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com/_pop/_ram/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.ram


Exiting... (End of file)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zu dem thema gabs schonmal nen thread, ich nutze den 10er realplayer schon lange, im portage ist er nicht aber es gibt ein einwandfreies ebuild bei bugs.gentoo.org (wo man immer erst gucken sollte bevor man behauptet es gäbe kein ebuild).
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59281
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ich spiele real media meistens mit mplayer ab. Das Problem am neuen RealPlayer ist, dass er die alten Codecs nicht mehr unterstützt.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wann wird der denn endlich freigegeben??
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steht in dem von Turrican angegebenen Link!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bröggle:
Code:

wget http://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com/_pop/_ram/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.ram

cat 00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.ram
rtsp://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com:554/pop/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.rm

mplayer rtsp://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com:554/pop/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.rm

und schon läufts. (Über Musikgeschmack lässt sich aber streiten ;))
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tja da bekomme ich (WIE IMMER) meinen lieblings mplayer fehler
URL doesn't contain a hostname part:
Code:
bash-2.05b$ mplayer rtsp://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com:554/pop/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.rm
MPlayer 1.0pre5try2-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team

CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred 1800 MHz (Family: 6, Stepping: 1)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
MMX supported but disabled
MMX2 supported but disabled
SSE supported but disabled
3DNow supported but disabled
3DNowExt supported but disabled
CPUflags:  MMX: 0 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions:

Reading config file /usr/share/mplayer/mplayer.conf
Reading config file /home/peter/.mplayer/config
Reading /home/peter/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open '/home/peter/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Reading /usr/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 73 audio & 180 video codecs
font: can't open file: /home/peter/.mplayer/font/font.desc
Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206 chars)
Using usleep() timing
Can't open input config file /home/peter/.mplayer/input.conf: No such file or directory
Input config file /usr/share/mplayer/input.conf parsed: 53 binds

Playing rtsp://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com:554/pop/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.rm.
Option stream url: This URL doesn't have a port part.
Option stream url: This URL doesn't have a hostname part.
File not found: 'pop/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.rm'
Failed to open rtsp://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com:554/pop/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.rm

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hast du mplayer mit USE-Flags real und live übersetzt ??
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

real auf jeden fall, live weiß ich ned genau,,,
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok ich hatte das selbe Problem und hab grad mal mplayer mit real und live neu gemacht, ging immer noch net, den es fehlte noch das USEflag: network
dannach scheints zu gehen.

vorher:
Code:
Option stream url: This URL doesn't have a port part.
Option stream url: This URL doesn't have a hostname part.
File not found: 'pop/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.rm'
Failed to open rtsp://cat-ra.universal-music-group.com:554/pop/s1/00602498605004_01_08_00.55-01.25_s1.rm


nachher:
Code:

Resolving cat-ra.universal-music-group.com for AF_INET...
Connecting to server cat-ra.universal-music-group.com[212.1.49.2]:554 ...
Cache size set to 8192 KBytes
Connected to server: cat-ra.universal-music-group.com
Cache fill:  4.49% (376832 bytes)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, network ist jetzt auch dqabei live und real aucj, dennoch bekomme ichn problem:
Code:
bash-2.05b$ mplayer http://rd01.t-bn.de/ramgen/ondemand/viva/ondemand/stars/fanta_4/fanta4_original_dsl.rm
MPlayer 1.0pre5try2-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team

CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred 1800 MHz (Family: 6, Stepping: 1)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
MMX supported but disabled
MMX2 supported but disabled
3DNow supported but disabled
3DNowExt supported but disabled
CPUflags:  MMX: 0 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Kompiliert für x86 CPU mit folgenden Erweiterungen: SSE

Reading config file /usr/share/mplayer/mplayer.conf
Reading config file /home/peter/.mplayer/config
Reading /home/peter/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open '/home/peter/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Reading /usr/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 73 audio & 180 video codecs
font: can't open file: /home/peter/.mplayer/font/font.desc
Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206 chars)
Using usleep() timing
Can't open input config file /home/peter/.mplayer/input.conf: No such file or directory
Input config file /usr/share/mplayer/input.conf parsed: 53 binds

Spiele http://rd01.t-bn.de/ramgen/ondemand/viva/ondemand/stars/fanta_4/fanta4_original_dsl.rm
Resolving rd01.t-bn.de for AF_INET...
Connecting to server rd01.t-bn.de[62.153.249.11]:80 ...
Cache size set to 8192 KBytes
Verbunden mit Server: rd01.t-bn.de
Cache fill:  0.00% (226 bytes)

Beenden... (Dateiende erreicht.)
bash-2.05b$

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muß das Thema nochmal auffrischen. Ich versuche einen mp3-stream von shoutcast.com mit mplayer abzuspielen. Er braucht nur "ewig" um den Cache zu füllen. Ich habe das jetzt immer so nach ca. 5 Minuiten abgebrochen weil er da noch nicht über 10% war. Kann man diesen Cache abschalten oder was mache ich falsch? Ich habe es auch schon mit der Option -audiofile-cache probiert. Gleiches Ergebnis... jemand Ideen?

xmms spielt die streams sofort... also funktionieren tun die schon...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Der Standardcache liegt bei 8MB, das kannst Du mit mplayer -nocache umgehen.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Das wars. TNX
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also ich habe heute mal probiert den n-tv Stream abzuspielen. Ich sehe ihn immer sehr gut ein paar Sekunden bevor mplayer abschmiert. Die Fehlermeldungen sind dabei unterschiedlich. Kann einer von euch den Stream mit mplayer abspielen? Wenn ja mit welchen Parametern (<- ich nur -nocache), welcher Leitungs-Bandbreite (<- ich 2M) , CPU (<- ich 1000MHz) und alsa oder oss (<-ich hab)?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: alternative zu Realplayer? Reply with quote

bröggle wrote:
Hi, gibt es eigentlich irgendeine möglichkeit mir real video/audio streams anzuhören ohne den buggy (und deshalb masked) realplayer auf die Platte zu hauen?

also sozusagen eine free-variante die nicht masked ist...


ich bin noch nicht so fit mit emerge und portage aber wenn ein "emerge realplayer" funktioniert heisst es doch das er nicht masked ist oder? sorry wenn ich mit so einer frage komme, bin aber noch NOOB :D

THX in advance
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

du hast schon recht, mitlerweile is der realplayer nicht mehr masked ;-)
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