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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: [OT] smartd Angaben in messages Reply with quote

Hi!

Ich habe neulich mal smartd mit /etc/init.d/smartd start gestartet. Jetzt zeigt mir meine /var/log/messages z.B. sowas:
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Jan 18 18:07:11 gentoo smartd[15825]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 127 to 125
Jan 18 18:07:11 gentoo smartd[15825]: Device: /dev/hdb, SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 42 to 43
Jan 18 18:07:21 gentoo smartd[15831]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 127 to 125
Jan 18 18:07:21 gentoo smartd[15831]: Device: /dev/hdb, SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 42 to 43
Die 40er Werte von hdb kann ich ja noch akzeptieren, doch die 125er von hda nicht wirklich. Oder kann das etwa wirklich so sein?
Klar, heiß sind die Platten schon manchmal, doch kochen tun sie nicht gerade ...

Der Rechner hat gerade eine:
Code:
 ~ $ uptime
 21:38:26 up 9 days,  4:12,  3 users,  load average: 0.41, 0.16, 0.11
 ~ $


Ich habe aber nicht das Gefühl, dass etwas nicht so recht läuft!

PS: Das mit der Samsung HDD in meinem anderen Thread hat damit nichts zu tun, das ist ein anderer Rechner. ;-)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Würd' da mal in der smartmontools-mailinglist nachlesen / nachfragen.

Es gibt immer wieder Disks die 1/2 °C, Farenheit oder sonst was seltsames liefern.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moin! Da fiel mir doch gerade ein, dass ich noch hddtemp habe um zu schauen wie warm es bei den Platten ist.

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~ # uptime
 06:44:35 up 9 days, 13:18,  3 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.06, 0.02
Code:
 ~ # hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hdb
/dev/hda: IC35L060AVVA07-0: 43°C
/dev/hdb: ST340014A: 42°C
 ~ #
Das sieht nicht ganz so schlimm aus, im Vergleich zu 127°C!
Ich gehe mal davon, dass es Fahrenheit sein sind, die hier so angegeben werden.
Dann würde es wohl wieder hinkommen. Umgerechnet wären es dann 25°C.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poste mal den output von smartctl -a /dev/hda
Ich lese seit längerer Zeit die smartmontools-support liste mit, vielleicht kann ich dazu was sagen.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moin,

ich beobachte das selbe Phänomen bei mir, eine Platte wird korrekt angezeigt, die andere glüht laut log. Abhilfe habe ich noch keine gefunden, bin aber beruhigt, dass ich nicht allein damit bin ;-)
Ich vermute mal, das sind Farenheit, die nur als Celsius angezeigt werden.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robelix wrote:
Poste mal den output von smartctl -a /dev/hda


Code:
root@gentoo: ~ # smartctl -a /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.30 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     IC35L060AVVA07-0
Serial Number:    VNC302A3L21STA
Firmware Version: VA3OA52A
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   5
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 1
Local Time is:    Wed Jan 19 17:57:45 2005 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity was
                                        never started.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                 (1732) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        No Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (  29) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   147   147   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       269
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   180   180   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       146 (Average 158)
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2602
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   132   132   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       33
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       10982
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       534
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   094   094   050    Old_age   Always       -       7375
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   094   094   050    Old_age   Always       -       7375
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   125   125   000    Old_age   Always       -       44 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/56)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       1242

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8545         -
# 2  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      4850         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      4849         -
# 4  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      3213         -

root@gentoo: ~ #

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oscarwild wrote:
Ich vermute mal, das sind Farenheit, die nur als Celsius angezeigt werden.
Ja, das denke ich auch. Wobei ich in der /etc/smartd.conf ändern konnte was ich wollte, es hat nichts gebracht.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NovaleX wrote:
Robelix wrote:
Poste mal den output von smartctl -a /dev/hda


Code:

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   125   125   000    Old_age   Always       -       44 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/56)


Da hast du die interessante Zeile. Die RAW_VALUE ist die wirkliche Temperatur, und das dürften schon °C sein. Und hddtemp scheint auch diesen Wert auszulesen.
Der smartd meldet aber anscheinend die VALUE (bitte nicht fragen warum), das ist ein Wert den die Firmware der Platte errechnet - der aber keine direkten Rückschlüsse auf die wirkliche Temp erlaubt (Da kann durchaus auch eingerechnet sein wie lange sie wie heiss war). Wenn die VALUE dem THRESH nahe kommt, dann kannst du davon ausgehen daß die Platte ihrem Lebensende zugeht.

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