How long to emerge KDE and Gnome?

manlymango · n00b Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

I have heard it is several hours, but I'm not sure weather I should emerge KDE, Gnome, or Fluxbox.

papal_authority · Veteran Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 1823 Location: Canada

In terms of time: KDE > GNOME > Fluxbox. Obviously it depends on your CPU, load, phase of the moon, et cetera, but Fluxbox shouldn't take more than a few hours. KDE OTOH can take days.
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Took about 48 hours to do both - gnome wasn't too bad, but kde is very slow - however this is an old laptop, almost 3 years old now. YMMV.
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Lokheed · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:40 am Post subject:

Oh come on people.

Let me answer this question with another question. How long would it take to run a mile? If I asked you that, what would be your first thought? Who is the runner maybe?

Someone did it in 3:49.78 min. Other people might take an hour...

See the problem with your question?

Now lets rephrase it:

"How long does it take to emerge KDE, GNOME, or Fluxbox. I have a P4 550."

Now that would be a question that could be answered with somewhat of a usable estimate.

KDE takes the longest which is quite closely followed by GNOME and Fluxbox only takes a fraction of the time.

manlymango · n00b Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

MaxPolun · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 111

Its going to take a long time. If you're doing both at least one day, maybe more (though your cpu seems to be pretty fast). If you start gnome in the morning it should be done sometime in the afternoon, then let kde emerge overnight.
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JackDog · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject:

4 months ago I tested this on a vanilla system right after an install. I did KDE first, then cleaned the drive and did gnome. This was on an amd64 2.2Ghz running in 32b mode. The drive was a raptor.

KDE - 3 hours 44 minutes

Gnome - 4 hours 05 minutes

This is for the basic install with the same USE flags in each. I used a -gtk -gnome for KDE and -kde for gnome. I did not compile kdeedu though as there is no equivalent in gnome, with that they probably would have been almost exactly the same. In terms of functionality over compile time, KDE include a lot more software, otherwise known as bloat by gnomers. In the future (even now) KDE apps are getting separated out into their own ebuilds so associating KDE with bloat wont really be accurate. Although I am sure people will keep spreading FUD

I honestly don't know where and how it got started that KDE takes longer. With the right combination of USE flags I am sure it can though. THere are a hell of a lot of options you can enable for KDE. The times are close enough that I would consider them "the same".

Fluxbox will obviously take less time, but factor in a web browser, email client and chat client and it gets in the 3 hour range.

Hope this helps.
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manlymango · n00b Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

Thanks for the help

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KK_r · Apprentice Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 182

bes way to cut time when emerging kde is to pick only the packages you want and not just "emerge kde".

I did all kde packages in 16 hours (don't know exacly when it stopped) with a 750mhz 256 SDRAM.
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JackDog · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:43 pm Post subject:

If you want to override what is in make.conf, you can specify USE flags on the command line. Keep in mind emerge will still inherit what is in make.conf.

manlymango · n00b Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

Would fluxbox require that I emerge all the apps seperately?

graphic23 · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:09 am Post subject:

Pink · Veteran Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 1062

Jack dog:

That post above about emerge timings is really interesting. I have never seen or even heard of gnome taking longer than KDE before (doesn't prove a lot mind). Could you post the USE flags you used (I know you indicate the -gnome and -kde) but am very interested in the rest.

TIA

On a side note, if you want specific USE flags for a programme you can also add them to your package.use file in /etc/portage.

such as:

JackDog · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject:

manlymango · n00b Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

When I install KDE, how will I tell Gentoo to open that on boot instead of booting to the console? Will it do this automatically or is a command required? On a side note, are there any good books I can learn more about Gentoo and Linux in general?

Naib · Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:22 am Post subject:

dont really know and dont really care. IF there is a GNOME update I mask it out and update the rest, then before going to bed unmask and emerge

next day in the morning a quick check what config need updating. Then off to work. Then play when I get home
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effloresce · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 109

KDE HOWTO. That will answer your questions of getting kde to load at boot.