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COiN3D Guru
Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 543 Location: Munich, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: Looking for a new browser ... |
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Eh guys, i'm looking for some alternatives to Mozilla Firefox since i think Firefox is still too ... "overloaded". I also did a test. I followed the superlight-kde tutorial and installed Konqueror with some other programs. Now i noticed, that Firefox takes about 10 MB Ram while Konqueror just takes about ~6. Don't understand me wrong, I just like compares.
Since i'm a fluxbox user I don't really like KDE, so i wanted to know if emerging kdebase bloats the system up or if KDE interferes in the rest of the system.
When i searched the forum for equivalent threads i found one where somebody said that emerging mozilla (full) without irc, mail etc. is as fast as firefox. Has anyone tried this out? By the way, how can i say portage not to compile the other plugins? Emerge mozilla shows me this:
Code: | net-www/mozilla-1.7.5 +crypt -debug +gnome +java -ldap -mozdevelop -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -mozxmlterm +ssl -xinerama -xprint 0 kB
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But there is no USE-Flag for moznoirc and so on ... _________________ e17 documentation | Be free and use Jabber as your IM! | Combine IRC and IM |
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SerfurJ l33t
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 824 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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yes, i think firefox is unstable.
i think mozilla without irc, mail, etc. is much faster than firefox. that's what i use when i'm not using elinks.
your current use flags look okay. they must've taken out the irc part of mozilla, so it's no longer an option. |
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COiN3D Guru
Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 543 Location: Munich, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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But you don't know any other alternatives, don't you? I would wish me a browser fast as links -g but with better website-appearence. _________________ e17 documentation | Be free and use Jabber as your IM! | Combine IRC and IM |
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SerfurJ l33t
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 824 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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there's galeon or epiphany which some people claim are faster, but i think it's the same as using the stripped down mozilla (they use the same html rendering engine). you might try dillo, but it's not much better than links -g. there's also w3m, which is a text browser that can display images.. pretty trippy. |
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yupi n00b
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 17
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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try opera it's very faster, light and block really spy answer more than firefox or mozilla do. it is independant about lib( no need kde, gnome or other). opera doesn't support video mplayer plugin ( for video asf,mov,wmv,avi etc...) like do mozilla or firefox so if you don't need multimedia opera is the best (flashplayer is ok), instead i think mozilla still better with multimedia. |
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SerfurJ l33t
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 824 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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but opera is commercial software. |
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MaxPolun Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 111
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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opera is free-as-in-beer. You can pay for it, and it displays text adds if you don't. That's really its only problem though, fine peice of software... _________________ Far from idleness being the root of all evil, it is rather the only true good --soren kierkegaard
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xlyz Veteran
Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Posts: 1470 Location: Italy
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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dillo? |
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COiN3D Guru
Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 543 Location: Munich, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I tried it out, it's a really fast browser but the representation is as bad as in links -g. There's another browser, called amaya with just 8 mb, but i'm getting a compile error. _________________ e17 documentation | Be free and use Jabber as your IM! | Combine IRC and IM |
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Illissius Guru
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 395 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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coin wrote: | I tried it out, it's a really fast browser but the representation is as bad as in links -g. There's another browser, called amaya with just 8 mb, but i'm getting a compile error. |
What sites were you trying it on? I use it as my primary browser and there's only one site in recent memory where it didn't work (the compare notebooks page at alienware iirc), but Firefox didn't work there either.
In case you were trying to use 7.54, use 8.0 beta 1 instead as it's just much better in every single respect, including stability.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push it on you or anything; just puzzled that it works for me and didn't for you.) _________________ Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
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COiN3D Guru
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Gullible Jones n00b
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Dog Solitude
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Coin... FF takes only 10 megs of RAM?! That must be a record low...
Konqueror actually takes more RAM, it just preloads an instance. IIRC there's a launcher that lets you do the same with Mozilla.
Edit: Perhaps you'd like Skipstone? There's a ~arch masked ebuild that works with mozilla 1.7.x... |
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total_planlos n00b
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 71 Location: Austria/Klagenfurt
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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try the new opera 8.0 Beta 1!! best browser today I think!!! |
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SerfurJ l33t
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 824 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Coin... FF takes only 10 megs of RAM?! That must be a record low... |
10 megs? i started it up and right off the bat it was using 28M. if i left it open and browsed with it, it'd be using over 50M in no time. |
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SerfurJ l33t
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 824 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | David Hallowell, a Mozilla contributor, said one of the primary goals for Firefox 1.1 is to improve the browsing experience for non-Windows users. "One of the main aims of 1.1 is to improve the user experience for users on Linux and Mac machines so that they can have a version of Firefox that fits in with their operating system as well as the Windows version fits in with the Windows OS," Hallowell said. |
http://torrentspy.com/default.asp#Firefox%201.1%20delayed
so they DO realize the linux version sucks. |
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graphic23 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 102 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Firefox is my main browser. I do suggest trying mozilla without any of the mail/calendar/etc. Its supposed to be fast. i like Firefox cause it only takes 14 MB of RAM _________________ Sincerly,
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Illissius Guru
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 395 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: |
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coin wrote: | I mean it can't display div-container rightly. For example, try www.absinthe182.com in Firefox and then in Dillo. Can you now see the difference? |
D'oh. I thought you were talking about Opera. Didn't notice the post just above yours. Never mind then, never tried dillo. _________________ Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
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COiN3D Guru
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Gullible Jones wrote: |
Edit: Perhaps you'd like Skipstone? There's a ~arch masked ebuild that works with mozilla 1.7.x... |
Woohoo! Thanks! I've tried out SkipStone now and it has still some bugs, but i can say it's anyway worth it! Guys, try this browser out! _________________ e17 documentation | Be free and use Jabber as your IM! | Combine IRC and IM |
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