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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: What spec is your server? Reply with quote

I have a:
    Pentium 2 233 Mhz
    32 MB RAM
    3GB HD mounted as /
    80GB mounted as /var
I run:
    Gentoo Linux 2.6.10
    qmail / courier-mail / vpopmail / spamassassin / horde email services
    imap ssl
    smtp ssl
    pop ssl
    apache 2 with php 5
    mysql 4
    sshd
    samba
    pure-ftpd
    syslog-ng
    vixie-cron
    distcc
    clamav
whats yours?

I am having problems with horde it takes ages to load a page the load appears to be on the amount of available RAM available to apache2. Do you think I should upgrade the RAM or upgrade the RAM and processor (500Mhz pentium 3). I think I can get away with just upgrading the RAM, as it is only a personal webserver anyway, I am not going to get a lot of hits.

What do you think I should upgrade RAM or processor OR both?

____*EDIT*______
resolved now i have 92MB of RAM and it runs fine


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a:

AMD Athlon XP 2500+
768 MB RAM
10GB mounted as / (ext3)
28 GB mountedas /home (ext3)
+ Network filesystems and /boot :-)

And I'm running:

courier-imapd
sshd
courier-pop3d
mysql
samba
vixie-cron
courier-imapd-ssl
courier-authlib
oidentd
apache2
apcupsd
saslauthd
pure-ftpd
postfix
courier-pop3d-ssl

I would add both if I were you (that's just me :-P)...but what you have should be enough if you don't get many connections to your server. :-P
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would just update the RAM. 32MB now, well, thats nothing. well, if this isnt enough you could still upgrade the cpu later, no? however, i dont think thats needed.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah 32MB..... it's a bit :( ! but i say if it can handle servering with that then it's fine..... however.... it can't!!! I was just wondering whether php 5 is processor intensive.... i wouldn't have thought it was THAT intensive, i would imagine it uses a lot of RAM though.... well when i say a lot.... i mean more than 32MB!

I would be interested to hear from people running the email services i am running as these are the slowest. Particularly horde, as i mentioned
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, if its a personal webserver only ( i guess, you share services with your friends, just a handfull of them?) go for the RAM first of all. no way with 32MB!!
i do not run horde, but run a personal service for me and my wife, and my old 500MhZ AMD-K6-2 with 3x128MB does fine in any departement. router, fileserver, and whatnot.
OTOH i wonder why anyone would use "horde" for a personal service 8O

btw.. what does all of this has to do with "networking & security" 8O 8O
btw2: why do you invest that much diskspace just in /var, while leaving the 3GB for all the rest 8O
btw3: for such an old beast, go kernel 2.4.x
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because horde offers other applications other than webmail and i would like an integrated web system, instead of a mix and match.

1. well if you can think of a better section to but it why dont you suggest one.
2. i invest 80GB's in /var because that is where I have choosen to put my wwwroot containing all my webspace, backed up file space, emails etc... Why would i need more than 3GB for the rest of the drive if nothing other than the OS and apps, is there?
3. Why not use 2.6? It works fine. Nothing wrong with my 2.6 kernel. I see no reason to go for an older kernel if the newer one works fine. I don't have many things compiled in or as modules


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point is that kernel 2.4 needs lesser RAM! Maybe you can stick with 32MB with 2.4.
What tells you "cat /proc/meminfo" when your system is up and sreving requests?
I assume there is quite some swap in use...


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 64MB of swap. when idle......

Code:
james@nicolson james # cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:        28228 kB
MemFree:          6244 kB
Buffers:          1860 kB
Cached:           8444 kB
SwapCached:       1556 kB
Active:           9508 kB
Inactive:         3960 kB
HighTotal:           0 kB
HighFree:            0 kB
LowTotal:        28228 kB
LowFree:          6244 kB
SwapTotal:       64472 kB
SwapFree:        31444 kB
Dirty:              32 kB
Writeback:           0 kB
Mapped:           5872 kB
Slab:             6172 kB
CommitLimit:     78584 kB
Committed_AS:   194072 kB
PageTables:       1360 kB
VmallocTotal:  1007572 kB
VmallocUsed:      5712 kB
VmallocChunk:  1000824 kB


with a horde page being requested....
Code:

MemTotal:        28228 kB
MemFree:           936 kB
Buffers:            56 kB
Cached:           3724 kB
SwapCached:       2252 kB
Active:          18088 kB
Inactive:         1012 kB
HighTotal:           0 kB
HighFree:            0 kB
LowTotal:        28228 kB
LowFree:           936 kB
SwapTotal:       64472 kB
SwapFree:         1788 kB
Dirty:               0 kB
Writeback:          44 kB
Mapped:          17388 kB
Slab:             5716 kB
CommitLimit:     78584 kB
Committed_AS:   214792 kB
PageTables:       1512 kB
VmallocTotal:  1007572 kB
VmallocUsed:      5712 kB
VmallocChunk:  1000824 kB


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

decrease789 wrote:
i would like an integrated web system, instead of a mix and match.

infact this is an inhouse system, what about phpnuke?
click my www button to have a peek. and, no, webmail is not available for you, but for internal use only.
you will find lots of addons, likeweise a wiki, blog, photoalbum, whatnot.

well, if you are not aware what you are doing.. thats why i recommend internal use. the "normal" phpnuke is full of security risks. browse the web if you like to learn more.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Blade 1000
Dual 64-Bit UltrasparcIII 750mhz CPUs (about 1.3-1.4ghz each in x86 land) each with 8 megs of L2 cache
2GB-Ram
FC-AL Hard Disk
Creator3d FFB2+

It models the entire known universe in real time and on good days it can see a few seconds into the future... 8)

In all seriousness,
Running gentoo for testing/experimentation
Running solaris for serving
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
the "normal" phpnuke is full of security risks.


well.... i am not using phpnuke. :lol:
and nor will i be.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This link should appeal to stats freaks... :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

decrease789 wrote:

well.... i am not using phpnuke. :lol:
and nor will i be.

i wonder why, because it does exactly what you asked for 8O
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

j-m wrote:
This link should appeal to stats freaks... :lol:

nice, but where does decrease789's problem come in 8O
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2x Opteron 240 @ 1.4Ghz apiece
2GB PC2700 ECC DDRAM
2x 80GB 7200RPM SATA Drives
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i said integrated, i meant i wanted all my personal notes, emails, tasks, etc all integrated.

Not with a CMS as well. Which is what phpnuke is primarily meant for

I doesn't seem right to me. Mixing a CMS with something that is unrelated. It's like mixing evolution with apache. I suppose it might be nice, IF you like that kind of thing, but it's all personal taste and thats what this is all about, I like horde! We are all different in the open source community and that is what is so gr8 about the software we produce, it is diverse and there is something to appeal to everyone!

At the end of the day horde is not the problem PHP is and that in itself is not the problem. The problem is, is that I don't have enough RAM to cope with PHP requests. So, we could have this conversation about phpnuke and horde all day, but it doesn't matter which one i chose I still have the same problem.

Yes, you could say IF I loaded phpnuke on there MIGHT be a possibility that it works fine, but I COULD sit here ALL day and hypotheorise situations, but I am not going to! So say hello to your friend below

8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

and I will say adeiu and goodbye to this conversation about horde and phpnuke!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pentium 4 2.4GHz
768MB ram
80GB segate barracuta 7200
Sweet $10 mouse

As for gentoo:
not quite working yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pentium Pro 180MHz
256MB RAM
3.2GB HDD + 1.0GB HDD
3c905 LAN card

Do I win the prize for the cr*ppest CPU?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your sure do win a prize for the cr*ppest CPU!

U get a triple :lol: :lol: :lol: smilie!

i'll pm u about how well your server works.... i'm interested having such a cr*p CPU myself
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 386 with 4 megs running bsd, but that was dumb.

Odd: A Dual Pentium Pro 200 with 256mb ram and a scsi 2gb, with dual gigabit on Gentoo.

Now - 1u dual opteron 246 with 6gb ram and 300gb raid 10 on 3ware. It runs Gentoo hardened / grsec and I'm still developing its services.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am running:

Dell Poweredge 400SC
2.4 ghz p4
2 gigs of ram
1 - 60 gig ide
1 - 250 gig ide
4 - 200 gig ide

Using for Email and Webserver. I also have all of my movies and music streaming through out my house with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It runs Gentoo hardened / grsec and I'm still developing its services.


tell me about it..... setting up a secure multi-server(ftp, web, ldap, email etc etc, as i like to call them) running gentoo takes ages. especially when you are running a pentium2 server..... it's taken me since the beginning of december to get this far, but nearly finished now just have to upgrade this ram and the serving-ness will be at an adequate state.

off topic..... do you like cats? i think they kick ass....


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

athlon xp 2500
512mb ram
3ware 7000-4 raid controller
4x200gb seagates in a raid 5

i'm running:
webserver (apache and tomcat)
cvs
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wmartino wrote:
I am running:

Dell Poweredge 400SC
2.4 ghz p4
2 gigs of ram
1 - 60 gig ide
1 - 250 gig ide
4 - 200 gig ide

Using for Email and Webserver. I also have all of my movies and music streaming through out my house with it.


that setup has fatwallet written all over it. correct?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbock wrote:

that setup has fatwallet written all over it. correct?


Yes it does. It also has the wife screaming "WHY do we need this.":D
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