gnome 2.10 beta 1

mkrisch · n00b Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 59

will any of the gnome 2.10 betas be made available as ebuild?

are there any unofficial ebuilds out there?

i couldn't seem to find any threads on this. for some reason i just assumed that someone would have a thread up the minute the beta was released....

apmurray · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:43 am Post subject:

As far as I know (this is how it has gone with the last few gnome releases) there will be no official ebuilds until atleast a few days after Gnome 2.10 is officially released. At this stage they will be hard masked and will be so for a few weeks.
Then they'll get moved to ~arch where they'll stay for a about another month until they are marked stable, so if you want it soon you can try breakmygentoo.net.

mkrisch · n00b Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 59

thanks for the update. i'd seen reference to breakmygentoo, but only with your email did i start to delve into what it exactly was. the didn't quite seem to have the beta stuff in there yet, so i might hold off a bit more.

David_Escott · l33t Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 952 Location: Boston, MA

The beta's are there.

mkrisch · n00b Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 59

Lokheed · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:50 am Post subject:

arenaweb · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:58 am Post subject:

if you want to try it out i would suggest using the developer livecd from http://www.gnoppix.org/

David_Escott · l33t Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 952 Location: Boston, MA

The numbers will be 2.9.x until the release of 2.10.0. As to the masking, they just want you to deal with the difficulties of verifying that the dependencies are unmasked. If you run x86 you should be fine.

mkrisch · n00b Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 59

arenaweb: thanks for the gnoppix suggestion. i gave that a spin and noticed two nice changes. first, the bug i've had in nautilus with smb folders being seen as an "unknown type" and not opening seems to have been fixed. and two, the memory usage was significantly lower (though how much of that is the gnoppix/ubuntu set up and how much from improvements to gnome, i'm not sure).

David_Escott: so i went into the gnome_2.10beta1 ebuild and manually changed the "-*" to a "~x86", and tried again. a number of additional packages got included in the requirements, but then i discovered that there seems to be some packages not in the breakmygentoo gensync local portage directory--for example yelp. is the bmg gnome beta distribution complete? or is it still being worked on? or am i doing something wrong with my gensync?

thanks.

David_Escott · l33t Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 952 Location: Boston, MA

Keep in mind that gnome.ebuild is nothing more than a list of the software that is considered part of the distribution. I am not surprised to hear that a less frequently used part of the distribution, like yelp, is not included in the bmg setup. If you really must have a complete setup you should probably try something like garnome, since this is mantained by gnome developers as a kind of meta package of the CVS-current and the releases. If you want to stay within the structures provided by portage then go with bmg, as long as the core stuff is there you will have an essentially complete desktop and won't miss much. I would classify the following software in the gnome.ebuild as optional

gucharmap
gnome2-user-docs
gnome-games
yelp
zenity
gnome-netstatus
nautilus-cd-burner

although you may draw the line elsewhere if there is some new feature you feel you *must* have or if any of those packages are things you use frequently.

mkrisch · n00b Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 59

well, i managed to find all the missing ebuilds specified in gnome-2.10_beta1 at http://home.jesus.ox.ac.uk/~ecatmur/gentoo/trees/capella.catmur.co.uk/. the only missing one was for libart_lgpl-2.3.17, but i was able to add that easily to my local portage.

i'm going to emerge it now and see how badly i can kill my system :)

mkrisch · n00b Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 59

well, for people who were wondering, my desktop didn't go up in flames. there are some nice tweaks, but it is still a bit rough.

evolution looks like it'll be a bit nicer, but in it still has some work to do. in particular, it seems that pilot synching is broken.

on the whole, though, it's useable.

Lokheed · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:06 am Post subject:

star.dancer · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 93

I installed the gnome-2.10 beta that's in bmg-main at breakmygentoo.net (my understanding is that the most cutting edge builds are in the gnome-current repository).

I installed it because I wanted to see if they fixed the volume-control/alsa problem. (So instead of compiling oss emulation in my kernel I decided to emerge a whole unstable desktop! I know... it makes perfect sense doesn't it.)

Overall, I'm very impressed. It's really snappy, looks good, I dig the new features! I haven't had a crash yet. The new control-center seems better, although I had just got used to the one in the gnome menu, this one is more like the windows "control panel". The only problem is... there's no launcher for it! I have to run "gnome-control-center" from the command-line. I'm sure this will be fixed in the release though. The volume control still looks for oss, oh well.

I had to do a few things:

yelp, etc. ebuilds aren't there. However, you can just rename the old ebuild files, make a digest, and emerge and it will automatically download the new versions from the gnome ftp! So, for yelp: