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Beetle B.
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 Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:13 am Post subject: Term software - I need an alternative to Konsole |
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I like Konsole. However, I don't use KDE, and I'm guessing it's quite bloated.
Two things keep me stuck to Konsole: 1) The fact that I can't get the appearance right on any other terminal program (details below).
2) The fact that I can have multiple terminals open all in one window.
3) Certain keys don't work right.
For 1), please refer to the following screenshot:
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The bottom left terminal is Konsole, the bottom right is aterm. See the difference in the way Midnight Commander looks? It's ugly! How can I get it to look more like it does in Konsole?
In addition, certain keys don't go through to the terminal if I don't use Konsole. For example, if I try to navigate the cursor in Midnight Commander using the keypad cursor keys (numlock being off), it just starts typing characters. The keypad Enter doesn't work either. Nor does Alt.
As you can tell, I simply don't know much about terminal apps. Any links to other cool features/hints to configure aterm and the like would be greatly appreciated. And if there is any lightweight term program that achieves effect 2) above, please do let me know!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:49 am Post subject: |
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try out Aterm  |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| Use Aterm/Eterm. To get the multiple terminals effect, emerge and learn how to use screen. |
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Eterm is nice.
If you want unicode support, its a bit harder to get though.
And a well configured Xterm is quite cool |
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Something like mrxvt will get you tabbed terminals. However, I have not been able to resolve your other two questions on my box. (Why don't the numkeys work with numlock off and how to match the font from konsole.)
You can play a bit with different fonts and see if you can have better luck. Look at available fonts in xfontsel, for example, then execute:
mrxvt -fn [name of font here]
to test it out. You will need to use the full name of the font. E.g.
-bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans-medium-r-normal--*-*-*-75-*-0-adobe-*
Good luck
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: xterm :-) |
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if you are ready to use screen instead of tabs i suggest xterm.
You can have very good looking fonts in xterm.
| Code: | | xterm -bg black -fg grey -fa Monaco -fs 11 |
Monaco is TTF font.Easy on the eye. |
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Beetle B.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | try out Aterm Idea |
In case you didn't read the post, the ugly window is aterm. I need to find a way to match the fonts (and the colors - too bright on aterm) to those of Konsole.
| Quote: | | Monaco is TTF font.Easy on the eye |
This one was bearable. I may use it as an alternative - thanks.
Any page out there with detailed configuration tips for any of the lightweight terminals mentioned above?
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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You can easily adjust the font in Aterm by editing the file
~/.Xdefaults
Mine looks like this:
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# setting the Mousecursor
Xcursor.theme: Premium
Xcursor.size: 24
!black
XTerm.color0: rgb:00/00/00
XTerm.color8: rgb:60/60/60
!red
XTerm.color1: rgb:a7/82/71
XTerm.color9: rgb:87/62/51
!green
XTerm.color2: rgb:a2/bc/8d
XTerm.color10: rgb:6b/7c/5d
!yellow
XTerm.color3: rgb:80/80/50
XTerm.color11: rgb:a0/a0/70
!blue
XTerm.color4: rgb:61/7b/aa
XTerm.color12: rgb:5b/73/a0
!magenta
XTerm.color5: rgb:a0/70/a0
XTerm.color13: rgb:a8/78/a8
!cyan
XTerm.color6: rgb:52/88/8e
XTerm.color14: rgb:66/aa/b2
!white
XTerm.color7: rgb:b0/b0/b0
XTerm.color15: rgb:b0/b0/b0
#set the Aterm font
Aterm*font:-xos4-terminus-medium-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15
# no aterm Scrollbar
aterm.scrollBar: false
aterm.foreground: white
aterm.background: black
# when aterm is not active fade it out
aterm.fading: 75
aterm.cursorColor: rgb:66/77/99
aterm.cursorColor2: rgb:18/18/18
aterm.colorUL: rgb:d0/90/70
aterm.colorBD: rgb:70/80/a0
aterm.title: ptsXX
XTerm*saveLines: 1536
#YAY transparent aterm
aterm.transparent: true
aterm.shading: 75
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I hope that helps you.
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| Quote: | | Take your pick from approx 300 different terminals |
I guess I should have phrased the title of this topic better.
I'm well aware of the existence of other terminal software.
My issue is that I can't get both the colors and the keybindings right.
The last post with the detailes .Xdefaults settings fixed the color issue (thanks, BTW), but any tips on fixing the keybindings? Particularly those of the keypad keys? (When NumLock is NOT set).
Thanks.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Term software - I need an alternative to Konsole |
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| Beetle B. wrote: | I like Konsole. However, I don't use KDE, and I'm guessing it's quite bloated.
Two things keep me stuck to Konsole: 1) The fact that I can't get the appearance right on any other terminal program (details below).
2) The fact that I can have multiple terminals open all in one window.
3) Certain keys don't work right.
For 1), please refer to the following screenshot:
Screenshot
The bottom left terminal is Konsole, the bottom right is aterm. See the difference in the way Midnight Commander looks? It's ugly! How can I get it to look more like it does in Konsole?
In addition, certain keys don't go through to the terminal if I don't use Konsole. For example, if I try to navigate the cursor in Midnight Commander using the keypad cursor keys (numlock being off), it just starts typing characters. The keypad Enter doesn't work either. Nor does Alt.
As you can tell, I simply don't know much about terminal apps. Any links to other cool features/hints to configure aterm and the like would be greatly appreciated. And if there is any lightweight term program that achieves effect 2) above, please do let me know! |
The answer to this question is related to, mainly, three diferent things: the look that you need/want for your term (overall your fonts), the level of funcionality that you want to archieve and the comsumption of machine resources.
If you can do with bitmap fonts you can use multi-aterm. It is in portage (maybe masked, don't remember) and is multitabbed, also with fake transparencies and so on.
If you need truetype fonts (i do, small display, you know, and bitmap fonts for me are totally unreadable in most circunstances) then you can use xterm, also gnome-terminal is lighter that kde's one (if you are not running kde), is tabbed and has some helpfull functionalities, like changing localization (even unicode) on the fly.
With fvwm (that i see in your screenshot) I like this last one because i open it automatically at start, locating it on the upper-left corner, then it shades automatically and when i take the mouse pointer near the top left corner the term unshades. |
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