Gentoo & UTF-8: Should I care?

[Master One]

While searching for more info about setting up Gentoo with UTF-8 support, I just saw here, that the Gentoo forums will be switched to UTF-8 in the (near?) future.

I already have compiled glibc with userlocales "de_AT@euro/ISO-8859-15" + "de_AT.UTF-8/UTF-8", but I still have set LANG="de_AT@euro" in /etc/env.d/99local

Do I have to do anything, to have full support of UTF-8 in KDE? (I assume not, because I compiled my whole system with the USE flags "cjk" &"unicode", and the system locale doesn't have any influence on X and the used DE, right?)

I don't want to use any special characters (except the German umlaut) in console, nor do I want to convert any filenames or filecontents to UTF-8. Is this right then, that I do not have to care for changing my system settings LANG="de_AT@euro" in /etc/env.d/99local, KEYMAP="de-latin1-nodeadkeys" in /etc/conf.d/keymaps and the settings in /etc/rc.conf (UNICODE="no", CONSOLEFONT="lat9w-16"), as well as kernel NLS settings (iso-8859-15) Default NLS Option and <M> NLS UTF8?

"There is a bug in Linux kernels (all versions up to 2.6.10 at the time of writing), which is affecting UTF-8 locales using dead keys (like Czech, Polish, Slovak, Spanish...). Linux kernel does not support unicode for dead keys." (quote from here)

So why should anyone try to use a full UTF-8 system, including UTF-8 in console?

As I have compiled glibc with the userlocales mentioned above, I already have this output:

[cazort]

UTF-8 is basically "backwards compatible" with the basic western encoding, so even if you don't have support, you should still be able to read all the characters with the exception of ones that are part of UTF-8 but not part of whatever encoding you are using. So I wouldn't worry too much. But UTF-8 is so cool and versatile that I've been building it into all my systems for the past several years, and I would recommend everyone to do the same!

[Master One]

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[h.u.n.t.e.r]

I have the same problem. I started with nl_BE@euro and ISO-8859-15. This weekend I switched to UTF-8. I did everything as explained in the guide.
Problem: dead key's in kde applications do not work but they do work in gnome apps! f ex eclipse, gaim, etc....

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Strange:? When I JUST leave the /etc/env.d/02locale file empty and everything defaults to "POSIX"; the dead key's work.
So what's in that file? --> LANG="nl_BE@euro.UTF-8" AND LC_ALL="nl_BE@euro.UTF-8"

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Furthermore -->

localhost workspace # locale -a
C
POSIX
de_DE
de_DE@euro
en_HK
en_PH
en_US
en_US.utf8
fr_FR
fr_FR@euro
nl_BE
nl_BE.utf8
nl_BE.utf8@euro.UTF-8
nl_BE.utf8@euro.utf8
nl_BE@euro
nl_BE@euro.UTF-8

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Does the following has an influence: ???????????????? Why??? --> BECAUSE using en_US.UTF-8 instead of nl_BE@euro.UTF-8 works normally!
But I do want MY language settings


localhost workspace # ls /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/ | grep UTF
el_GR.UTF-8
en_US.UTF-8
ja_JP.UTF-8
ko_KR.UTF-8
pt_BR.UTF-8
th_TH.UTF-8
zh_CN.UTF-8
zh_TW.UTF-8


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And last but not least -->
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8#Kernel_Bugs
Could this be my problem? I mean; why is it stilll working just fine unther gnome thenn??



TNX for the advice!

[Deathwing00]

Moved from Installing Gentoo to Other Things Gentoo.

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