Using 2005.0 profile right from the beginning

intenso

Hi!

I'm about to install Gentoo on my new amd64 box using this guide https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-189250-highlight-method.html

Since I would like to have an 'uptodate' system I decided to use the 2005.0 profile right from the beginning. So, when do I have to run the commands described in the update guide when I am using the install method above?

Looking forward to responses,

intenso

gcrew · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject:

That's a rather intense guide. It's very similar to the Gentoo Handbook, but adds a few extra steps.

I'm not sure if you realize that Gentoo releases are not like most distribution releases because you can upgrade to the most uptodate "release" with just a couple commands. Check out this link for a quick explanation.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#upgrade

My understanding of the 2005.0 release is that it adds a whole bunch of graphical utilities to do some of the steps that always had to be done by hand. The previous release installation CDs always probed for modules then just brought you to a prompt where you would type all the commands from that guide above. You can actually install Gentoo using any CD or existing installation. (Just make sure you're using a 64 bit kernel.) I set up my AMD64 server just a couple weeks ago by using a RedHat install CD. (I accidentally downloaded the 32 bit Gentoo CD instead of the 64 bit.)

I haven't seen the new CD, but my guess is it brings you to a Graphical frontend to install everything. This probably makes it easier for newbies, but I'm sure you can still do everything by hand by just getting to a prompt.

Hope that helps.

Geoff

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intenso · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject:

Hi!

gcrew · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject:

(And the teacher becomes the student...)

I guess I made a couple wrong assumptions.

Is there a 2005.0 profile page I can check out to see if there's something I should do? The documentation I see doesn't mention 2005.0, but it seems you know something I don't know.

Geoff

herbie · Guru Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 319 Location: London UK

http://amd64.gentoo.org/2005.0-upgrade-amd64.xml

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ShadowHawkBV · Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 352

If it's like the 1.4 to 200*-1 upgrade, it will require a bit of manual labour to accomplish. It's not a "normal" upgrade like going from 2004-2 to 2004-3 was. However it's far from being as difficult as upgrading from Win 98 to Win XP. Or even upgrading from SuSE8.2 to SuSE 9.1.

Then again, I could be totally wrong, and one of the wonderful developers could create a script that flawlessly and effortlessly does it via a simple emerge -uDv world.
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andrewd18 · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:23 am Post subject:

Is 2005.0 "stable" yet? I mean, I heard some people were havin' probs with AMD64, and moving from 2004.3 to 2005.0. Would I be able to do it without any major stability issues?

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intenso · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:24 pm Post subject:

Hi!

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http://dev.gentoo.org/~kugelfang/livecd/

maybe use a test version?

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Pajarico · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject:

It's not stable, but i have just upgraded and everything seems to work just fine.

Something i don't understand is that 2005.0 should change (among other things) the place for the libs and emul libraries. Those changes are oriented AFAIK to compile 32 bit binaries on demand, right?

But how do i force to compile in 32 bits?

:wink:

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Pajarico · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject:

Ok, that clears some doubts. But even when 2005* is ready how will i tell gcc to build in 32 bit? Like a 32 bit wine or 32 bit mplayer (for windows codecs)?

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herbie · Guru Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 319 Location: London UK

The gcc flag you need is -m32. To do it with portage, ebuilds will have to be written specifically. The trick is to set ABI="x86" in the ebuild and portage handles the rest. See the grub ebuild as an example or bug 82758 for an example of a wine ebuild that compiles 32bit wine using multilib (only works with 2005.0 profile).

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shuiend · n00b Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 12

Does anyone have a link to where I could get a stage tarball that uses the 2005.0 portage tree? All the mirrors have a folder for it but no ne have the stages which I need. I plan on doing a straight install using 2005.0 because my 2004.3 had alot of problems and I could not just upgrade to the 2005.0 profile. I allready formatted my linux partition and that has messed up grub so all I have to use on this comp is my nice minimal live cd. Links makes this whole forum experince very interesting.

Shapemaker · n00b Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 64 Location: Finland

jean-michel

Well, I've been trying to do a 2005.0 stage1 install off of a 2004.3 stage1 tarball (since no 2005.0 stage1 seems to exist for amd64, not even an experimental one). What I've tried thus far is

Pajarico · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject:

intenso

Hi!

jean-michel · Last edited by jean-michel on Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:57 pm; edited 1 time in total

OK, my system is still building, but it looks like it's working and is far enough along I think it is safe to post this. Here is what I did to bootstrap a stage1 2005.0 profile from a 2004.3 stage1 tarball (x86_64, multilib, udev, NPTL system):

1. do the usual install per the Gentoo handbook, up through untarring the stage1 tarball and entering the chrooted environment.

2. emerge sync

3. configure /etc/make.conf per the "upgrade from 2004.3 to 2005.0" instructions. Here is my 'emerge info' as a reference to something that worked (I use local mirrors, but they are up to date with the main portage tree as of 3/1/2005).

nianderson · Guru Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 369 Location: Lawrence, KS

great thanks for posting that i was just planning on waiting for 2005.0 to release. now i might as well give it a shot

jean-michel · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: caveate

NOTE that the AMD64 USE flag and ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is added by portage and shouldn't be in your /etc/make.conf. Also note that 2005-spring refers to an internal release of some in-house software, so your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS should remain commented out or set to "amd64."

My versions of the core toolchain are as follows:

shuiend · n00b Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 12

Ok. I got everything up untill Grub. I cannot for the life of me to get grub to install. I did a stage2 install just so everyone knows. Emerge grug failed. I then tried emerge grub-static and that worked. But when I run "grub" and setup (hd0) it gives me an error about /boot/grub/stage1 dosent exist. How do I fix this? I would like to be into this system by tonight and it seems this si the only thing keeping it form working.