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thoffmeyer Apprentice
Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 208 Location: GMT -5 Hours
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Mmmmmmm _________________ Conrad Guide, Current Maintainer
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jannis Guru
Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 340 Location: Germany / Bavaria / Aschaffenburg
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well my system sometimes locks when running OpenGL-Apps, but it still reacts on pings and I can SSH but this is described elsewhere as it keeps happening with 2.6.11-gentoo-r2.
On some older 2.6.X kernels (namely 2.6.9-nitro4) everything works well. |
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discomfitor l33t
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Legoguy wrote: | Hey Darckness, guess what? All of your releases with -r0 on them cannot be unmerged without unmerging all versions of nitro.
Nice going.
It automatically removes r0 (2.6.11_rc3-r0 -> 2.6.11_rc3) and therefore can't find the correct ebuild to unmerge.
I refuse to use nitro until you stop this r0 silliness. pre1, beta1, alpha1, whatever, just not the portage-[rule-]breaking r0. |
Thanks for your hate, but I haven't changed anything on this release since I told you that I would stop using r0 back on page 12. Luckily you've decided to stop using it until the next version. Well done. _________________ There is no substitute for experience.
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Morimando Guru
Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 339 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Hm i love nitro-sources and the idea of putting in nvidia and ati kernel is also nice (although it hasn't worked for me )
Hmm i hope this outweighs the bad guys a little bit _________________ That young girl is one of the least benightedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
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gogds n00b
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Morimando wrote: | Hm i love nitro-sources and the idea of putting in nvidia and ati kernel is also nice (although it hasn't worked for me )
Hmm i hope this outweighs the bad guys a little bit |
I like nitro-sources although I'm not using Gentoo. I'm using Slackware and I really like the idea of putting nvidia in. It worked for me after removing certain lines from the Makefile as suggested by the nitro devs.
Thanks nitro devs for your work on this. |
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Lenz Veteran
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 1439 Location: Marburg [HE, D, EU]
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Great kernel patchset! Works fine on my machine for weeks and solved a lot of problems I have had before with gentoo-dev-sources! So keep you work up! _________________ .:: Lenz' Signature 1.7b ::.
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discomfitor l33t
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I just want to thank everyone for all the support I've been getting lately. It's hard to stick with a project when everyone seems to be flaming you out of the universe, but I'm managing. I WILL continue development.
Two things of note:
As far as I know, seppe is working on the next nitro and it should be ready soon. There will be a definite cut back on features, and useless patches will be eliminated. In the coming releases I hope to somewhat change nitro's image. People seem to view it right now as some sort of "speed freak" or "ricer" patchset. This is not our aim, nor is it true. Nitro-sources is merely the desktop performance of ck-sources combined with several extra features. The aim is not speed, but to provide users with features that are not found in any other easily accessible kernel. Speed, if it occurs, is merely a side benefit .
Aside from nitro, I'm (hopefully) going to begin work on a new kernel-related project soon which will take everyone by surprise and is not controversial or flame-worthy (although somehow people might find a way...). I'm not at liberty to say much at the moment, but rest assured that everyone who uses nitro will love (Pun intended? Who knows? ) it. The only hint that I feel is reasonable at the moment is to say that I am not working by myself on it. In fact, if all goes well there should be at least ten people making sure that this project is a masterpiece. Many of them are prominent figures who you know and love. Feel free to speculate, but I won't be able to say much until it either fails to work out, or until it succeeds wildly. If you're lucky, some other people who I plan to work with will see this post and drop some other hints. I suppose we'll see though.
DISCLAIMER: This is not like the nvati-drivers project. It will not violate any licenses, nor will it cause people to go nuts (except for those who REALLY get caught by surprise). _________________ There is no substitute for experience.
Imperfection indicates a lack of effort.
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Pink Veteran
Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Darckness:
I know it is difficult when small minded people flame you every opportunity they get (you should see the hate emails I have had about the simple win4lin patches I offer, LOL), but bear in mind most of these people haven't offered anything to the community and all they want is perfection for free and give nothing back whatsoever.
Also bear in mind the number of people who are using it and who do like it
You, and the other devs', efforts are appreciated by the majority of people.
Good luck with the new project, whatever it is, and, as we say in England, keep your chin up! |
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Illissius Guru
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 395 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Hmm. Runtime selectable process schedulers? What is it?
(Best guess I have, based on the 'love' hint, if it was one at all, as that is biggest difference between nitro and love...) _________________ Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
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Phlogiston Veteran
Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 1925 Location: Europe, Swizerland
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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something else:
why is nitro-sources.org not up to date? It should be shouldn't it? _________________ Workstation: 5.1 SurroundSound, LIRC remote control; Laptop [IBM-T43]: patched sources, s2disk/ram, fingerprint sensor |
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Varuna Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 97 Location: Connecticut, United States
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Darckness: Thank you (and the other Nitro devs, of course) for your valued contributions to this great patchset. Even though I've used the more-or-less current versions of Nitro for months, I don't post on these threads much because things generally work! I use Reiser4 on all partitions and enjoy tweaking everything in sight while maintaining reasonable stability, so this patchset is ideal. As you're prolly a busy person, taking the time to document, support, and otherwise deal with the public must be tough in and of itself, so when some of those members of the public make your efforts feel decidedly unappreciated, it is very understandable that you would want to back off. While I would certainly respect any such decisions you make, I'm also quite glad that people of your dedication volunteer their time to contribute; it is definitely people like you, Tiger, and Seppe that make free/open-source tick. |
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loswillios n00b
Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 10
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm running nitro0-e on my samsung x10 with a dsdt-initrd (patch is included in nitro0-e) but my log is filled with:
Code: | ACPI: acpi_ec_space_handler: bit_width should be 8 |
And laptop-mode is always on. I have to disable it everytime i boot.
greez
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seppe Guru
Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 431 Location: Hove, Antwerp, Belgium
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Phlogiston. wrote: | something else:
why is nitro-sources.org not up to date? It should be shouldn't it? |
yeah it should, but I'm too lazy I guess
I hope to get a new homepage for nitro-sources ready in a few weeks. This time completely seperated from my personal homepage/weblog
2.6.11-nitro1 is coming soon. There are already unofficial, unreleased patches for it in a secret directory I won't tell :p But with a little luck, 2.6.11-nitro1 final will be out tomorrow. Currently, I still have a little problem with Software Suspend 2, but I PM'ed darckness and I hope he can fix this. _________________ nitro-sources, because between stable and experimental there exists only speed
Latest release I made: 2.6.13.2-nitro1 |
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Morimando Guru
Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 339 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Oh next new nitro.. i keep changing kernel every week, seems that won't change..
I wonder what Darckness was talking about with the next big thing he's working on... maybe he's shaking his sleeves and a linux-2.10-darck-hour1 jumps out and makes out systems boot in 2 friggin seconds, making menuconfig with full-fledged hardware-detection and compilation itself right after emerging the source?
Now THAT would be really cool One more question though: Can you add "works more stable"/"bit shaky"/"don't use for standard system" to your changelogs? would be a charm ah well i love your kernels.. i tried love-sources too but after 1 day this heart at bootup and that "have a nice day" chased me off... also i was having hardlocks upon removing my usb-stick ^^ => Nitro rulez _________________ That young girl is one of the least benightedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
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hellz_hunter n00b
Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:08 am Post subject: |
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i'm getting kind of frustrated
been working on this for the past two days and im getting nowhere fast
heh i dont even know where to start
with the gentoo-dev-sources 2.6.10-r6 kernel, nvidia-kernel package works fine with my system, xorg loads fine, unstable when resizing video on xine but overall just fine
now, with the nitro sources for x86, i abandoned all hope of compiling the built in nvidia module since i kept getting a seg fault (this was after i upgraded to gcc3.4)
i can only seem to compile the ~x86 nvidia-kernel package when using the latest nitro source, otherwise i get a kbuild error
loading the nvidia module is fine but when trying to run xorg i get hard freezes no matter what i do
in my xorg.conf do i still need the 'Option "NVAGP" "2" or should that be set as something else?
i'm just completely out of ideas, im going to try the 2.6.11-r5 and see if it works, then i can confirm that there is no hope for 2.6.11-semi-final nitro source to work on my system
if you need any information about my system or anything else please dont hesitate to ask as i really want this to work on my system, im just exhausted of ideas
p.s. other than the serious complications, great kernel i really do love it _________________ Even the rats grow bolder in the night. |
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hellz_hunter n00b
Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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ok, apparently staying up for 48 hours will do something to logical thinking,
just incase anyone else is having issuse
make sure ur using gcc 3.4 to avoid confusion
also make sure u have xorg to version 6.8.2
the latest nvidia kernels worked for me
and most importantly make sure ur using nitro-sources _________________ Even the rats grow bolder in the night. |
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