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cokey Advocate
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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you do know that SETI is funded by Microsoft money... So when SETI find something MS can claim part smugness _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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Sith_Happens Veteran
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 1807 Location: The University of Maryland at College Park
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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cokehabit wrote: | you do know that SETI is funded by Microsoft money... So when SETI find something MS can claim part smugness | My support of SETI is ideological not political. Besides, if the my government would give more funding to finding life rather than destroying it, maybe SETI wouldn't have to accept the funding of monopolistic weasels like Microsoft. I'd hoped someone would give me an answer to my original question though, about the love's vs. nitro's cpu scheduler when it comes to non-desktop applications. _________________ "That question was less stupid; though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way."
I'm the brains behind Jackass! | Tutorials: Shorewall |
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thebigslide l33t
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 792 Location: under a car or on top of a keyboard
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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cokehabit wrote: | you do know that SETI is funded by Microsoft money... So when SETI find something MS can claim part smugness |
WTF cares. It's good that MS is throwing their money at someone else. Better that than using it to develop IIS or MS antispyware further. |
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predatorfreak l33t
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 708 Location: USA, Michigan.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sith_Happens wrote: | cokehabit wrote: | you do know that SETI is funded by Microsoft money... So when SETI find something MS can claim part smugness | My support of SETI is ideological not political. Besides, if the my government would give more funding to finding life rather than destroying it, maybe SETI wouldn't have to accept the funding of monopolistic weasels like Microsoft. I'd hoped someone would give me an answer to my original question though, about the love's vs. nitro's cpu scheduler when it comes to non-desktop applications. |
I can, from what I've seen, both staircase (nitro) and nicksched (love) proform quite well, the only problem is that it takes more study to see which will REALLY proform better. I would generally suggest using O(1) instead of staircase or nicksched in server settings, because O(1) proforms quite well. In fact, when I get home (saturday), I'll release 2.6.11-vividserv1, the thing is, I'm trying to round up as many bug fixes as possible to put into vividserv, not custom CPU schedulers. I'll proble include the improvements sent by nick piggin in 2.6.11-vividserv2 (the improvements are on top of O(1)) and other things requested. Well I'm talking about vividserv, I'd like to say sorry to fallow for not releasing it before vacation and thank fallow for allowing me freedom to develop as I see fit. _________________ System: predatorbox
Distro: Arch Linux x86_64
Current projects: blackhole, convmedia and anything else I cook up. |
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Sith_Happens Veteran
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 1807 Location: The University of Maryland at College Park
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks predatorfreak, I thought that might be the case. _________________ "That question was less stupid; though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way."
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predatorfreak l33t
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 708 Location: USA, Michigan.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sith_Happens wrote: | Thanks predatorfreak, I thought that might be the case. |
Np Sith_Happens, I'm only doing my job. _________________ System: predatorbox
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neonik Guru
Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 501
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't really matter which patchset you use, as long as you use it for a desktop PC. For that matter I prefer -ck or at least -ck based kernels. My apps become more responsive, which I do need, since I enjoy recording my guitar.
Vanilla doesn't always work for me perfect enough. But I guess if I had configured it a bit differently than I'm used to, it might have worked better. nitro-sources is unfortunately very unstable for me. Earlier it was fine, though. Same happened to love-sources. At the beginning they all worked nearly flawlessly and were - thank to the patches - a great extension to the default kernel. Now I just can't use it. It depends, I guess, on different hardware and configuration. _________________ Best regards,
neonik
netshot-0.0.8 - script that takes screenshots, generates their thumbnails and uploads them all! (has not been updated). |
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discomfitor l33t
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I wish this thread would just die. The only big difference between love and nitro is the fact that one now uses plugsched and mm as its base, and one uses ck as its base. Other than that, they provide nearly all of the same features. Unless, of course, this is referring to the developers of nitro and love themselves, in which case it's really just a thread about attacking other people. Or, again, unless this thread is really just another "mm or ck?" thread in disguise.
And I can make a post just for the purpose of saying that, especially since otw posts don't count towards postcount. _________________ There is no substitute for experience.
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rush_ad l33t
Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 863 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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i agree. this is going too far. just anything that you like. after all its linux. |
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i stopped posting in here ages ago... oops _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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fallow Bodhisattva
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2208 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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by the way :
ANY my love release isn't / wasn`t based on mm
a little mm in addition only (around 20 patches of 500 in full mm. so this is 1/25 of patches in mm)
so mm or ck isn't good question for current love and nitro because love isn't mm based
( no-sources is mm-based for ex. ) .
maybe nicksched or staircase , genetics or predictable hehehehe ok , jokes out .
I want also to forget this thread ...really.
Also we still considering using of plugsched . Propably we`ll chose the 2.6.12-rc1 as pior way and maybe not using plugsched , also we are going to extend testing period , improve stablility ( cut "ricer" patches , cut unusefull stuff etc. ) _________________ "Time is a companion that goes with us on a journey. It reminds us to cherish each moment, because it will never come again. What we leave behind is not as important as how we have lived" J-L. Picard |
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discomfitor l33t
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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fallow: When I said that love was mm based, I was referring to the fact that historically, that's how it has been. Plus, you do use more mm patches than other kernels . I guess I jumped the gun a little on plugsched...
Maybe some kind moderator can lock this for us?
EDIT: Good point Earthwings. Nobody touch this! Nobody! _________________ There is no substitute for experience.
Imperfection indicates a lack of effort.
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Earthwings Bodhisattva
Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7753 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Darckness wrote: | Maybe some kind moderator can lock this for us? |
But why? There's no real flaming or anything going on here, only you pushing it up from time to time so it can't die as you want it
SCNR, Earthwings |
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rush_ad l33t
Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 863 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:23 am Post subject: |
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people said stuff that didnt even belong here. |
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thebigslide l33t
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 792 Location: under a car or on top of a keyboard
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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rush_ad wrote: | people said stuff that didnt even belong here. |
lol |
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:39 am Post subject: |
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did we ever find which was better? _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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rush_ad l33t
Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 863 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:40 am Post subject: |
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no need to find out whats better. they are both linux |
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thebigslide l33t
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 792 Location: under a car or on top of a keyboard
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:43 am Post subject: |
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cokehabit wrote: | did we ever find which was better? |
No, I got stuck with some pointer issues in my app. I am still working on it... |
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:10 am Post subject: |
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i dont suppose you want to give coke-sources a try? _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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thebigslide l33t
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 792 Location: under a car or on top of a keyboard
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:32 am Post subject: |
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will try anything once. Got a link to the diff? |
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cokey Advocate
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: |
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it was kind of a joke. Lovechild and I were going to do one at some point but he got angry with me and wouldn't speak to me for some reason so it never got done. Plus if i did do one it would have to be a staging ground for patches for the gentoo kernels so i could help out plasmaroo and dsd _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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thebigslide l33t
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predatorfreak l33t
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 708 Location: USA, Michigan.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Darckness wrote: | fallow: When I said that love was mm based, I was referring to the fact that historically, that's how it has been. Plus, you do use more mm patches than other kernels . I guess I jumped the gun a little on plugsched...
Maybe some kind moderator can lock this for us?
EDIT: Good point Earthwings. Nobody touch this! Nobody! |
Not for long , time to finish up vivdserv1 and release it..... _________________ System: predatorbox
Distro: Arch Linux x86_64
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virtual Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 132 Location: Bergen
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I first started using nitro source awhile back when doom3 was new. The reason i switched from gentoo-dev-sources to nitro was that gentoo-dev-sources at that time wasn't good enough, I can't remeber if they were too slow or did'nt work properly, but nitro solved the problem then. I have never had any problems wth nitro-sources when using kernel 2.6.10.-> but wanted to try ck sources and now use 2.6.11-ck2 without problems. I think many postings on this thread are rude and don't give the nitro devs. the respect and thanks they deserve for making a good kernel patch set. I realy hope the nitro devs. keep at it and overlook simple and rude comments from simple minds.
Thanks nitro devs. I think your work is appreciated by most. _________________ The roots of education are bitter but it's fruit is sweet. |
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Phlogiston Veteran
Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 1925 Location: Europe, Swizerland
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I just read this thread about latest love and I think this beats nitro. Because there's also staircase in love now. So everyone can choose his favourite sheduler. What do you think of this? Is love now more flexible than nitro? Or does love have just too many patches because of this?
Greets Phlogiston
Link to the latest love:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-321056.html _________________ Workstation: 5.1 SurroundSound, LIRC remote control; Laptop [IBM-T43]: patched sources, s2disk/ram, fingerprint sensor |
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