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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: XDG menus |
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iormungand wrote: | vipernicus wrote: | root# mv /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu /etc/xdg/menus/gapplications.menu
and your KDE Menu will be back to normal
and when you want to use gnome menus again:
root# mv /etc/xdg/menus/gapplications.menu /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu
and your Gnome Menu will be back to normal
It's annoying, but it works. |
Yeah, it works!
Maybe a better solution could be found here?
http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-0.9.html |
From reading that, it looks like the gentoo developers could create a single menu for those that use gnome and kde that has a section that is only shown in gnome and a section that is only shown in kde, and make those sections appear to be the default menus. They could call it universal-xdg-menu.ebuild or something... _________________ Viper-Sources Maintainer || nesl247 Projects || vipernicus.org blog |
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iormungand n00b
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Brindisi, Italy
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: XDG menus |
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vipernicus wrote: |
From reading that, it looks like the gentoo developers could create a single menu for those that use gnome and kde that has a section that is only shown in gnome and a section that is only shown in kde, and make those sections appear to be the default menus. They could call it universal-xdg-menu.ebuild or something... |
I think imho it could be even easier, without the need of a separated ebuild. In ubuntu this problem seems partially resolved (gnome doesn't show icons of kde apps, manually copying icons in /usr/share/pixmaps resolve the issue), but various files (applications.menu, etc) are almost the same as those of gentoo. Maybe the problem resides in internal kde opts... boh? |
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chunderbunny Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1281 Location: 51°24'27" N, 0°57'15" W
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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I've installed gnome-light-2.10_pre0 plus a few extras (gstreamer, gedit, gnome-vfs etc) and it all seems to be working aprt from one snag. Whenever I reboot and login to gnome it takes about 2 minutes for the panel to to start working, after the splash screen has gone. I can see the panel without any icons, my wallpaper hasn't loaded but any apps I tell to autostart will start. After 2 minutes the panel comes to life and I have access to everything. If I just log out and log back in again this doesn't happen.
Any idea on how to fix this behaviour? |
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Lokheed Veteran
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Posts: 1295 Location: /usr/src/linux
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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chunderbunny wrote: | I've installed gnome-light-2.10_pre0 plus a few extras (gstreamer, gedit, gnome-vfs etc) and it all seems to be working aprt from one snag. Whenever I reboot and login to gnome it takes about 2 minutes for the panel to to start working, after the splash screen has gone. I can see the panel without any icons, my wallpaper hasn't loaded but any apps I tell to autostart will start. After 2 minutes the panel comes to life and I have access to everything. If I just log out and log back in again this doesn't happen.
Any idea on how to fix this behaviour? |
Check ~/.gnomerc-errors file for anything "strange." _________________ You're not afraid of the dark are you? |
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chunderbunny Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1281 Location: 51°24'27" N, 0°57'15" W
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Well I don't have a .gnomerc-errors file, but .Xsesion-errors contains the following Code: | /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
/etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "jasper"
/etc/X11/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
/etc/X11/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- gnome-session
SESSION_MANAGER=local/SpectrumZX:/tmp/.ICE-unix/9626
** (gnome-panel:9699): WARNING **: Failed to add file monitor for file:///home/jasper/.gtk-bookmarks: Unsupported operation
No running windows found | Which may well be the problem. Unfortunately I have no idea what would cause that error, let alone how to fix it. |
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Lokheed Veteran
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Posts: 1295 Location: /usr/src/linux
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:37 am Post subject: |
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chunderbunny wrote: | Well I don't have a .gnomerc-errors file |
Thats not a good thing...
Try deleting that file: .gtk-bookmarks _________________ You're not afraid of the dark are you? |
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nford n00b
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Location: Waterloo
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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I just installed Gnome 2.10 last night and now the keys on my keyboard are mapped to different characters. Like the slash and backslash are where the tilde key usually is. Is there a simple way to fix this |
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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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nford wrote: | I just installed Gnome 2.10 last night and now the keys on my keyboard are mapped to different characters. Like the slash and backslash are where the tilde key usually is. Is there a simple way to fix this |
Get a butterknife and pry off all of your keyboard keys, and figure out what each key is now, and then match the key covers with the corresponding keys.
(Don't do this, unless you really want to.) _________________ Viper-Sources Maintainer || nesl247 Projects || vipernicus.org blog |
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nford n00b
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Location: Waterloo
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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vipernicus wrote: | nford wrote: | I just installed Gnome 2.10 last night and now the keys on my keyboard are mapped to different characters. Like the slash and backslash are where the tilde key usually is. Is there a simple way to fix this |
Get a butterknife and pry off all of your keyboard keys, and figure out what each key is now, and then match the key covers with the corresponding keys.
(Don't do this, unless you really want to.) |
its very tempting I must tell you.
Weird thing - somehow the layout got changed to canadian. I changed the keyboard layout to US and it seems to have fixed it. |
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chunderbunny Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1281 Location: 51°24'27" N, 0°57'15" W
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Lokheed wrote: | chunderbunny wrote: | Well I don't have a .gnomerc-errors file |
Thats not a good thing...
Try deleting that file: .gtk-bookmarks |
There is no .gtk-bookmarks file. Is this a fault with the gnome-light ebuild possibly? Maybe there is a package I need to install which provides the .gnomerc-errors functionality. |
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FloatBest n00b
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 44 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: KDE/Gnome menu separation |
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Hi,
I just played around a bit with trying to separate Gnome and KDE menus, and it seems as if I've found (kind of) a solution:
Put the following in you Gnome startup script:
Code: | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="/etc/xdg"
XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/X11R6/share/gnome:/usr/X11R6/share" |
and that into your KDE script:
Code: | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="/usr/kde/3.4/etc/xdg"
XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/kde/3.4/share:/usr/share" |
Now it seems to work quite nicely, at least for my box here. Would be nice to know if it works for you too.
See ya,
FloatBest |
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iormungand n00b
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Brindisi, Italy
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: KDE/Gnome menu separation |
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FloatBest wrote: |
Put the following in you Gnome startup script:
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Hi, unfortunately I don't know which are these scripts
do you mean "startkde" and "gnome-session"?
I tried with startkde but I didn't get any effect... |
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p.n Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 124
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Bug 84701 now RESOLVED!!!!!
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84701
Looking forward to seeing 2.10 in stable shortly! _________________ "Every time I learn something new it pushes some old stuff out of my brain." - Homer Simpson |
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c0bblers Guru
Joined: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 403
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
A while ago I mentioned a menueditor that's being developed for ubuntu using python and said I'd run up an ebuild.....well 200 years later and 2 versions and a name change later, I've finally got around to it It's still pretty dodgy sometimes due mainly to differences with how gnome-menus and pyxdg work with menus. Moving menu items around is a bit sketchy, but adding items seems to work OK. Anyway, here's a tarball to stick into your overlay...hopefully it'll work http://17boulden.dyndns.org/smeg-0.5-overlay.tar.bz2. It relies on some pretty recent packages, some of which might still be masked. It might work with older packages, but the deps are what I've tested it with. If it doesn't work, destroys your menus, calls you bad names or explodes you computer, don't blame me .
EDIT: OK, now that I've fixed my router, you should actually be able to download the above file .
Cheers,
James
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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: KDE/Gnome menu separation |
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FloatBest wrote: | Hi,
I just played around a bit with trying to separate Gnome and KDE menus, and it seems as if I've found (kind of) a solution:
Put the following in you Gnome startup script:
Code: | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="/etc/xdg"
XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/X11R6/share/gnome:/usr/X11R6/share" |
and that into your KDE script:
Code: | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="/usr/kde/3.4/etc/xdg"
XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/kde/3.4/share:/usr/share" |
Now it seems to work quite nicely, at least for my box here. Would be nice to know if it works for you too.
See ya,
FloatBest |
where are the startup scripts? _________________ Viper-Sources Maintainer || nesl247 Projects || vipernicus.org blog |
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padarasa n00b
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 41
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I emerged 2.10, but I have some problems:
- the trash-applet doesn't work correctly: when I delete all stuff in it, it's still seems to be full. after a logout&login it's correct
- the sound-applet doesn't really work. It often hangs up when I logout and it crashes every time when I start a sound (for example starting a mp3 with xmms)
- I can't eject CDs with the device-applet
- there are many problems with icons... so some icons get lost in the menu and I miss some icons when I add an applet (for example panel-force-quit (applet) and gnome-alsamixer (menu))
It all worked with 2.8 without any problems.
Am I the only one that have these problems? |
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electric_hamster n00b
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Found another problem - Naultilus can no longer browse the root network samba tree.
i.e. When I open "Windows Network" in nautilus, it shows no machines, however typing the direct smb:// address works fine.
Anyone else encountered this? |
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GaMMa l33t
Joined: 23 Aug 2002 Posts: 684 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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electric_hamster wrote: | Found another problem - Naultilus can no longer browse the root network samba tree.
i.e. When I open "Windows Network" in nautilus, it shows no machines, however typing the direct smb:// address works fine.
Anyone else encountered this? |
I've had issues where a network computer just wouldn't show up for some reason, but no matter what it wouldn't display, but I don't have this issue. Does it sometimes show up? Maybe it's related to my problem. _________________ Ubuntu Linux Dapper Drake running Gnome-2.14.1
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hoschi Advocate
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 2517 Location: Ulm, Germany, Europe
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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erm, difficult to describe
in gnome 2.8 i can make all nautilus-icons smaller (100...75...50), and the font stayes "normal" - but since gnome 2.10 the font in nautilus also gets smaller
but i need smaller icons + the normal font size - notebook, not much space...
if i change the font size in apps generally, i got a new problem - this fonts will be to big in every other application!
what should i do? _________________ Just you and me strogg! |
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bertaboy l33t
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 604
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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nford wrote: | vipernicus wrote: | nford wrote: | I just installed Gnome 2.10 last night and now the keys on my keyboard are mapped to different characters. Like the slash and backslash are where the tilde key usually is. Is there a simple way to fix this |
Get a butterknife and pry off all of your keyboard keys, and figure out what each key is now, and then match the key covers with the corresponding keys.
(Don't do this, unless you really want to.) |
its very tempting I must tell you.
Weird thing - somehow the layout got changed to canadian. I changed the keyboard layout to US and it seems to have fixed it. |
But, your location says Waterloo. I really hope that isn't Iowa... |
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horton30 n00b
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 62 Location: Penn State!
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:44 am Post subject: |
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When will 2.10 be released so you dont have to make any changes (~) or whatever. Would 2.10 be stable now if i tried to get it? and how do i go about getting it now? |
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rush_ad l33t
Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 863 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 3:16 am Post subject: |
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it has been unmasked. |
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b3cks Veteran
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1481 Location: Bremen (GER)
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Lokheed Veteran
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Posts: 1295 Location: /usr/src/linux
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 6:26 am Post subject: |
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chunderbunny wrote: | Lokheed wrote: | chunderbunny wrote: | Well I don't have a .gnomerc-errors file |
Thats not a good thing...
Try deleting that file: .gtk-bookmarks |
There is no .gtk-bookmarks file. Is this a fault with the gnome-light ebuild possibly? Maybe there is a package I need to install which provides the .gnomerc-errors functionality. |
Ahh, that would explain it. Gnome Light is crippled and full of errors. I personally think it should be hardmasked. It is a true subpar Gnome experience. Here are is what packages my Gnome.2.10.1 ebuild has...works flawlessly...but if you are running Gnome Light, then that might explain things.
Code: | >=dev-libs/glib-2.6.4
>=dev-libs/atk-1.9.1
>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.7
>=x11-libs/pango-1.8.1
>=dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.19
>=dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.14
>=x11-libs/libxklavier-1.14
>=media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1
>=media-sound/esound-0.2.35
>=gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2
>=media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.17
>=dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.5
>=gnome-base/orbit-2.12.2
>=gnome-base/gconf-2.10.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.1
>=gnome-extra/gnome-keyring-manager-2.11.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1
>=gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.10.1
>=gnome-base/libbonobo-2.8.1
>=gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.8.1
>=gnome-base/libgnome-2.10.0
>=gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.10.0
>=gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.10.0
>=gnome-base/libglade-2.5
>=gnome-base/control-center-2.10.1
>=gnome-base/eel-2.10.1
>=gnome-base/nautilus-2.10.1
>=gnome-extra/nautilus-open-terminal-0.2
>=media-gfx/gthumb-2.6.4
>=gnome-extra/gcalctool-5.5.42
>=gnome-extra/gconf-editor-2.10.0
>=app-editors/gedit-2.10.2
>=gnome-base/gnome-session-2.10.0
>=gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.10.1
>=gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.10.1
>=gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.10.1
>=x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10.1
>=gnome-extra/gnome2-user-docs-2.8.1
>=x11-libs/gtksourceview-1.2.0
>=gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.10.3
>=gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.10.2
>=gnome-base/libgtop-2.10.1
>=gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-2.10.1
>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.9.5
>=x11-libs/libwnck-2.10.0
>=x11-wm/metacity-2.10.1
>=x11-libs/startup-notification-0.8
>=app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.2.0
hal? ( >=gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-1.2.1 )
>=gnome-extra/gal-2.4.2
>=gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-3.6.0
>=app-admin/system-tools-backends-1.2.0
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asimon l33t
Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 979 Location: Germany, Old Europe
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: Re: KDE/Gnome menu separation |
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FloatBest wrote: | and that into your KDE script:
Code: | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="/usr/kde/3.4/etc/xdg"
XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/kde/3.4/share:/usr/share" |
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After this it may be that you need to run kbuildsycoca before the kmenu changes. At least I needed this. |
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