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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: NETWM-compliant minimal window manager? Reply with quote

evilwm is dead, and AFAIK isn't NETWM-compliant.
ratpoison is alive, but doesn't have NETWM-compliance.
wmii isn't in a workable state yet.

Haven't tried many others.

The reason I want NETWM-compliance is because I want to toy with cool stuff like custom pager, Skippy, et cetera.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fvwm, fluxbox...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fvwm, fluxbox , blackbox , Xfce all my favorites git it a try ..
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of those are very minimal.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok besides wmi ... dunno ... prompt ?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wmi is borderline minimal. wmi itself doesn't have NETWM spec support and probably never will (only time when wmi gets touched is when it has a bug, no new features are being added). It's successor (wmii) will, but is in severe development stage at the moment, isn't in portage at the moment, and doesn't actually have it yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

racoontje wrote:
None of those are very minimal.


no? openbox then..
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

racoontje wrote:
None of those are very minimal.


no? openbox then..
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Official release date of wmii is quite close (march 25), I'd wait for that. BTW I find it strange you see ratpoison, wmi etc as minimal window managers. It are the only window managers (together with ion ofcourz) that actually manage windows instead of throwing them somewhere on the desktop. The term window managing window managers might be better (WMWMs).
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why Not Fvwm ?

http://fvwm.org
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You already said that. I've used fvwm. It's NOT minimal.

Also: I've been tracking wmii in darcs for a while. There's no chance it'll be done my 25/3. It was supposed to be done a month and a half ago.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man ... you dont wanna decide ... :P

how about
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cd /usr/portage/x11-wm

then
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ls
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure I want to decide, in fact, all I want is to decide. It's just that you keep suggesting things like Fluxbox/Blackbox/fvwm which clearly aren't in the same league as evilwm, ratpoison, windowlab, and wmii.

I think I'm going to go with wmii, but the problem is that the deadline is useless. I talk to Garbeam and _uriel daily, they all agree that the deadline is moot.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, but can it be that though to decide something like then when you have lots os wm ś to choose from, that its almost hard to choose :P

i understand you, try them all :)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried them all, that's the problem. There are no WMWM's (to use the quote four posts up from here) that are also NETWM-specced at the moment. wmii will probably be the first, but it'll take a few weeks :-)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about waimea or kahakai?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about waimea or kahakai?


At least one of them as its development stoped , but still a pretty good wm , about waimea i heard that the main dev was goiing tostart something on it again
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