USB + FAT32? [SOLVED]

Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

I just wanna know how to get a portable MP3 player using a FAT32 formatted CF card usable in linux... Every time I try to mount it (mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /home/mp3) I get:

donjuan · l33t Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 760 Location: At Uni

Do you have FAT32 support built into your kernel?
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Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

Of course I do. I wouldn't be able to mount FAT32 HDDs otherwise.

petlab · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject:

We have to ask these questions, since you didn't detail them all -

How about this one - can you mount anything else fat or fat32? That would help us troubleshoot.
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Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

I'm aware of that petlap, and I do apreciate all help but I tend to give short answers without unnecesary chitchat (sorry if that sounds cold). On the other hand I do tend to give out as much detail as possible and getting no answers at all.

What did you mean by "anything else fat or fat32" ? I didn't try to make a fat32 CD yet...

petlab · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject:

Have you ever been able to mount any fat filesystem

Is that short enough for ya toughguy?

Your detail link doesn't work.
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Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

Fixed details and

petlab · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject:

Sorry - it just seemed like you started it with "of course I do." donjuan was trying to help you, giving one of the more common reasons for your problem. At that point, you hadn't given us ANY details on what you had tried. Then you snapped at donjuan.

We can't guess what you have done to troubleshoot, and we shouldn't have to ASK for details. If you have already tried all the common solutions, let us know. Then we won't have to waste time with a bunch of things you already tried.

See what I mean?
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petlab · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject:

What about partitioning? I am guessing here, but don't you have to partition it first? Maybe repartitioning with cfdisk, then mkfs.
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Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

I didn't see that as snapping... but anyway.

I didn't try partitioning actually... What bothers me is that it it works fine in windows. I formated the thing there, transfered the songs, etc... and it works. Whereas here I just cant mount it. It's already partitioned and formated and filled with data so that partitioning shouldn't be an issue.

petlab · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject:

I agree, but you are still having problems. There might be a difference in the partition, which came from an incomplete or buggy partitioning program when the card was initially partitioned.
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Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

hardly... but it might be worth a shot.

petlab · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject:

You just come across as grumpy. I suppose no one else tells you this? Come on, we are having fun here. I want to help out with your problem. Mostly what you are doing is saying "no, it's not that," or "I doubt that's it.." I'm giving suggestions. I thought that's what you would want.

When you are willing to actually do some work to try fixing the problem, let me know.
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Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

Well, since you seem to be having fun (and since it's pretty much the only thing I haven't tried yet - from the suggested ones)...

petlab · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject:

Okay, sorry to be so hard, sometimes less is really less (as far as being short in your posts)

I actually have had a problem like this once, and I thought it really odd myself. On the other hand, I expect it when trying to send graphics files from one program to another. I can fix it by opening the file in a third program, then resaving it. The base format is not always implemented the same between programs.

FAT should be the same no matter where it is created. And so should the partition. But, so should graphics files, and they aren't. Hope you get it going.

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Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

Yeah me too... otherwise I'll need to get me a win box just for this :twisted:

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petlab · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject:

Yeah, there you go. It can support vat. , and you DO have the msdos as well as the fat and vfat. Those are all needed.

Theoretically, you can either compile in, OR use as modules. Of course, as modules you need to make sure they are not just made, but also installed, (make modules modules_install)
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donjuan · l33t Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 760 Location: At Uni

I did find the response to my initial post rather cold, but I basically ignored that. The reason why I didn't respond anymore was really because I couldn't think of anything else that could be the problem, but now I can since you guys started talking about more kernel stuff. Do you have USB mass storage support compiled in? (Device Drivers --> USB Support --> USB Mass Storage Support)

Also, the handbook mentions the usbfs. I did a little research about it and it's similar to the /proc file system. Is it necessary to mount USB flash drives? If so, you should probably make sure you have the following line in your /etc/fstab:

Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

I basically just followed this (only with a 2.6 kernel). I wouldn't know anything about usbfs tho. I'll try tomorrow. Thanks for the help so far.

Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

Let's start from the beginning... Hi, I'm Pithlit /joke

# dmesg

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Pithlit · l33t Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 887 Location: fuhen

Hmm... I can format it with ext2, ext3 and reiser (I haven't tried others) and mount it just fine. That makes me think the device itself is fine and supported. And I have generic scsi support (cos of a firewire cd-rw). Anyone knows if I can use gtkam (or just gphoto) to transfer files onto a camera? Cos that would save my ass at least till I figure out another way...

edit: ...a 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 kernel

nightfrost · Apprentice Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 293 Location: Sweden

First off: this is one of the funniest threads I've ever read on these forums! Secondly, check out "File Systems > DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems" and "File Systems > Native Language Support". I used to have problems mounting fat32 until I changed the default codepage from 437 (USA) to 850 (Europe), and iso8859-1 to iso8859-15. You might also want to enable utf-8 if that's not enabled. However, I never quite understood exactly why that helped. Anyway, good luck on ya...