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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: Music player that allows large playlists (25000+ songs) |
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Hello everyone,
I am wondering if anyone knows a linux mp3 player that supports a lot of files, right now I have about 25000 songs and there are not many players that support that well.
The latest Amarok (still ~x86 I think) works but takes about 130megs of memory and thats a little over the top for me.
Ive also tried mpd but it just crashes with a large playlist and when I try to enlarge the playlist in the options then it just stops working (or I'm doing something wrong) so I'm wondering what music player for linux does support lists as large as this one.
I prefer sql based players like amarok since they are usually a bit more powerfull but thats not really needed.
*sigh* if Amarok would just keep everything in the mysql database and not putting the entire list in the program then it would work great.
So...is there a player like this around or will I have to write a player myself? _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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alphonce Apprentice
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Are you really listening to all of those? I mean 25000 song, let's say that the average length of every song is about 3 min, then it will take about 50 days to listen to all the songs. I'm sure you can clean up some gigs of songs.
You can use beep-media-player, i tested to add a couple of songs, i got bored at 50000 songs. so it will make up for your demands. _________________ no computer at the moment! |
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mascanho Veteran
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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ok defenetly , its the best one when it concerns on managing lots of musics, it has lots of cool features way better music manager then xmms and i repeat music managment bmp and xmms are good too but not for that amount of musics _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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alphonce wrote: | Are you really listening to all of those? I mean 25000 song, let's say that the average length of every song is about 3 min, then it will take about 50 days to listen to all the songs. I'm sure you can clean up some gigs of songs.
You can use beep-media-player, i tested to add a couple of songs, i got bored at 50000 songs. so it will make up for your demands. | Actually, yes I listen to all of the songs, if you listen about 8 hours a day then you will get bored with the music after a while, I do remove a lot of music (if I really don't like a song I just remove the entire album ) but thats not enough yet.
My taste of music is pretty big, one day I'll listen to Nightwish and the other day I'll be listening Beethoven so that gives you a lot of potentially good music.
Btw its a total of 74 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 51 seconds.
But thank you for the tip, I'll try beep-media-player.
mascanho wrote: | ok defenetly , its the best one when it concerns on managing lots of musics, it has lots of cool features way better music manager then xmms and i repeat music managment bmp and xmms are good too but not for that amount of musics | Thank you, I'll try it aswell, I have used it once before at work but not at home yet.
I'll see if it works
I'll reply soon. _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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mascanho Veteran
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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np @ all _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Beep-media-player is working but scrolling and searching is a bit slow, but it does work
And rhythmbox is still busy adding the music (for the last hour or so :rolleyes:
But they both seem to work pretty good
Btw are there qt based applications that can do it aswell?
Since I run kde I do prefer qt
But rhytmbox seems like a good option so far, beep is a little to slow right now but looks very good aswell.
[edit]Rhytmbox is (finally) done with adding all the music but since the memory usage is also around 100megs it isn't really usable either, I guess beep-media-player is the only usable player right now _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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mascanho Veteran
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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hu ???? what do you mean ??
rhythmebox is the ppl uses when they have loads of musics because it allows you to seperate the music by type genre etc and so one bmp is good also, but still has a lot to go on ...
but what is you purpose btw ??
just add all them to playlist and play them or you intend something else ? _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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malloc l33t
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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mpd + ncmpc... _________________ --> Linux ### 2.6.11-ck2 #1 Sat Mar 12 20:21:30 WET 2005 i686 GNU/Linux <-- |
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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I have restarted rhythmbox now and it uses less memory then before but still a lot if you ask me.
According to System monitor it is using 104.4 MB of memory right now, and starting the app took a few minutes since it had to load all of the songs
Not really an option like that. _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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malloc wrote: | mpd + ncmpc... | Tried that and after adding all of the music to mpd it won't accept connections from clients anymore.
kmpd, gmpc, ncmpc, they all say connection close or similar.
The mpd error log says
Mar 20 19:13 : interface 0: output buffer size (2141999) is larger than the max (2097152)
So...not really working right now. _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have religious reasons for not organizing your music into folders and then making separate playlists, or has that thought just never came to mind? |
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Pwnz3r wrote: | Do you have religious reasons for not organizing your music into folders and then making separate playlists, or has that thought just never came to mind? | Not enough time is the main reason actually, and besides that sometimes I just want to hear music randomly of all sorts.
But if there is no other way then I guess I'll just have to organize a bit more, I do have some of it in separate folders but a lot of it is in one big folder, the big folder is about 92G and its a total of 150G so I have organized some _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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mascanho Veteran
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yup if you have so many mp3 files just separte them into a bunch of directorys and then just load the ones you whant ..
separate them by Genre or something like date, it would be much easyer or you can always rm *.mp3 _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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mascanho wrote: | ....or you can always rm *.mp3 | and *.ogm and *.flac and *.mpc
But I guess thats the only way :/ _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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mascanho Veteran
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Damn, you dont listen to about 60% of all those musics you have i bet, simply split them nito folders, thats the easyest way to do it and i was just joking when i said that _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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codergeek42 Bodhisattva
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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If you want a Qt/KDE app, I've heard nothing but good things about amaroK... (I've never used it. I use Rhythmbox.) _________________ ~~ Peter: Programmer, Mathematician, STEM & Free Software Advocate, Enlightened Agent, Transhumanist, Fedora contributor
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Shadow Skill Veteran
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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I would go with Amarok its almost as powerful as foobar2k or Winamp and uses a library style interface if you are into that sort of thing, but it doesn't sacrifice power unlike other players. [cough rythmbox cough] The only bad things about it are:
1. It's a qt app. [I just cant find any good looking qt app anywhere its sad really.]
2. It needs kdelibs [can take a while to compile if you never did it before and don't have ccache enabled in your features section, it takes me about an hour or so.]
3. see number one.
4. For some strange reason it has started to depend on kdemultimedia for the akode engine which also ends up installing other crap like Juk and other annoying audio apps. It seems like at some point xine engine support became broken and they tacked on kdemultimedia to make the thing actually work. [I hope its just my setup that is broken somewhere.]
Other than those things Amarok is great, far better than any of the other players out there for Linux.
Ps. I only mentioned Xine engine because gstreamer is really crappy and I don't consider it a framework for anything at this point. _________________ Ware wa mutekinari.
Wa ga kage waza ni kanau mono nashi.
Wa ga ichigeki wa mutekinari.
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mascanho Veteran
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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damn how could i forget amarok ... _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Well like I've said before (in my start post) I have tried amaroK but it really sucks up memory, I have started amaroK again and according to system monitor it is using 182,8 MB of memory.
I can take a little but that is really way too much for me, thats with amaroK 1.21 so maybe I should try another version but like this its just a little too heavy for me. _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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mascanho Veteran
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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and has me and others have said instead of trying diferent programs and versions why dont you simply separate your music ?
its not amarok fault is probably yours, who told you to have 2xxxxxxxxxxxxxx musics in one directory and in one playlist _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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mascanho wrote: | and has me and others have said instead of trying diferent programs and versions why dont you simply separate your music ?
its not amarok fault is probably yours, who told you to have 2xxxxxxxxxxxxxx musics in one directory and in one playlist |
No it is the players fault for not doing what the OP wants.
Because you like your music organised (as I do) does not mean that everyone should have to listen to there music organised.
I sometimes put all my tracks on one big long list and have the player on random skip. It makes for an interesting experience when you have a lot of different types of music.
Try answering the question not imposing your ideas. _________________ My Public Key
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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trust me if you put it into seperate folder it would be much easyer , i simply dunno whats the purpose of having 2xxxxxxxxx mp3 on a single folder and want to listen to them all at once _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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nevynxxx wrote: | I sometimes put all my tracks on one big long list and have the player on random skip. It makes for an interesting experience when you have a lot of different types of music. | Exactly, I just like to put them all in a big list once in a while.
@mascanho: I think you have misunderstood, I do have nearly all of my music in seperate folders, 99% are albums and every album is in a different folder.
Then I have a few bigger folders with some genres to sort it a little, but its not all sorted. _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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ok, but if rhythmbox or amarok doesnt go for you i dunno what will serve your purposes ... just in case have you tried mpd ??? _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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Rick Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Rick wrote: | Ive also tried mpd but it just crashes with a large playlist and when I try to enlarge the playlist in the options then it just stops working (or I'm doing something wrong) so I'm wondering what music player for linux does support lists as large as this one. |
Rick wrote: | malloc wrote: | mpd + ncmpc... | Tried that and after adding all of the music to mpd it won't accept connections from clients anymore.
kmpd, gmpc, ncmpc, they all say connection close or similar.
The mpd error log says
Mar 20 19:13 : interface 0: output buffer size (2141999) is larger than the max (2097152)
So...not really working right now. |
mascanho wrote: | ok, but if rhythmbox or amarok doesnt go for you i dunno what will serve your purposes ... just in case have you tried mpd ??? |
Yep _________________ Have you ever noticed how stable windows is?
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