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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:49 am    Post subject: unknown host problem Reply with quote

ok i have looked up all the help on this soo far and have not found a solution yet that could solve my problem. my gentoo box can get to the internet via IP's but not though DNS. It is behind a nat router. Also this trouble started when i was setting up samba using this guide

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Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
loopback        localhost       255.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 lo
default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0


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eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:BF:9B:02:97
          inet addr:192.168.1.50  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::250:bfff:fe9b:297/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:3017 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:3444 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:345980 (337.8 Kb)  TX bytes:449574 (439.0 Kb)
          Interrupt:5 Base address:0xec00



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 cat /etc/resolv.conf

nameserver 68.9.16.30
nameserver 68.10.16.30
search ri.cox.net
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does the NAT router do, exactly ?
Does it allow DNS queries in both directions ?
Since DNS is mostly UDP, it won't easily cross a one-way NAT connection - you'd best forward DNS from the NAT router itself.
Or else add the standard ESTABLISHED,RELATED line to the NAT rules.
If that is at all possible.

Oh and drop the search line from resolv.conf until you have verified that it works...
What exactly happens when you type
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host www.google.com

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adaptr wrote:
What does the NAT router do, exactly ?
translates the internal to the external...thats about it


adaptr wrote:

Does it allow DNS queries in both directions ?
Since DNS is mostly UDP, it won't easily cross a one-way NAT connection - you'd best forward DNS from the NAT router itself.
Or else add the standard ESTABLISHED,RELATED line to the NAT rules.
If that is at all possible.


it was working before the samba install

adaptr wrote:

Oh and drop the search line from resolv.conf until you have verified that it works...
What exactly happens when you type
Code:
host www.google.com

?


okies i droped the search

Code:

ping www.google.com
ping: unknown host www.google.com

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I know what a NAT router does ;-)

Can you use dig ?
You need bind-tools for the nameserver tools.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adaptr wrote:
Yes, I know what a NAT router does ;-)

Can you use dig ?
You need bind-tools for the nameserver tools.


huh ?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You write that you cannot resolve hostnames.
This is not a samba-generated problem - it can't be.
It is in your network config somewhere, or in the network itself.
Dig (Domain Information Groper) can help you with name resolution problems.
All other tools (route, netstat, ping, traceroute) are already available.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was thinking that it may be samba related as u have to modify permissions when u set up some of the other file with samba

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<Location /admin>

AuthType Basic
AuthClass System



Allow From 192.168.1.*
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All

</Location>

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And.. er.. what does this have to do with network name resolution ?

Or with Samba, for that matter - that is an apache config snippet.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no its not...thats a cups config tbh that i had to set up with samba
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...which has nothing whatsoever to do with samba, and even less with the ability to resolve names on the network.
Where is this going ?
You keep saying Samba, I said no it has nothing to do with Samba; if you doubt that, fine.
You cannot resolve names on the network; I would concentrate on that instead of insisting that Samba must somehow be to blame.
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