View previous topic :: View next topic |
What's Your Preference: |
Desktop |
|
35% |
[ 42 ] |
Window Manager |
|
65% |
[ 78 ] |
|
Total Votes : 120 |
|
Author |
Message |
cephlen n00b
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 40 Location: Seattle, WA
|
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I love gnome2. Its very well done, clean, profesional, and well integrated. Easy to configure. They have a ways to go yet, but its getting there.
Metacity, on the other hand, is horrible. Sawfish & Waimea are my choices for a WM in the gnome-session. My fears are that support for other WM's will be gone in future versions.
Being able to drag n drop onto the desktop is a real time saver. Some use it as a launcher, I use it as a work folder. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
jlowell Guru
Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 389
|
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 2:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
Arthur Vandelay,
Beside gkrellm, what other system monitors can you attach to fluxbox?
jlowell |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Arthur Vandelay n00b
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 55
|
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 7:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
To jlowell,
There is a collection of dock apps that were written for the WindowMaker WM that can be inserted into the fluxbox slit (dock).
Try this site www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/
The best collection I have seen yet.
That's all I know that will work with fluxbox.
PS If you decide on gkrellm, I'd advise not using gkrellm2 and use gkrellm instead. gkrellm2 was too slow and bloated for my taste. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
lghman Guru
Joined: 29 Nov 2002 Posts: 548 Location: Florida
|
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 8:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Forget all that slow loading Gnome and Kde stuff, Fluxbox all the way. Fluxbox, gkrellm, and a few eterms and off we go! I want my desktop ready in 5 seconds flat.......
lol
--sonik |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bluesman n00b
Joined: 08 Oct 2002 Posts: 48 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
|
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 2:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
Fluxbox, gkrellm, a bunch of aterms, and that's all that I need to keep me happy .
Though Fluxbox on XDirectFB... pure joy. If I could only use something else than vesa, but I guess that's out of the question. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
jlowell Guru
Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 389
|
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 5:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
Arthur Vandelay,
Thanks for the site reference. Very interesting!
You know, this whole world of source based Linux is brand new to me. To date its been SuSE and Red Hat. I'm in process of converting one of my machines from an experimental box into a web server for my business. I planned to employ Red Hat 8.0's server install selections. There are two other computers on the network, one principally for storage, the other a very high performance main system.
I installed Gentoo successfully recently on the experimental computer but there were problems with the boot process in connection with file system details that I should have caught at kernel time but didn't. Truthfully, I'd rather install cleanly and go from there than do the clean-up later. So I'm going to do it again, and again if necessary, until I get it right, this time on one of the drives on my main system rather than on an experimental box. Once there, things like fluxbox and gkrellm become important. I have a lot to learn, but the trimmed-down-to-essentials concept you seem to prefer appeals to me. Rather than going with a desktop next time, it'll be Fluxbox, system monitors and terminals. What do you like in the terminal area?
jlowell |
|
Back to top |
|
|
dufnutz Apprentice
Joined: 01 May 2002 Posts: 209
|
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 12:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
jlowell wrote: | Arthur Vandelay,
What do you like in the terminal area?
jlowell |
a lot of people, including myself prefer either Eterm or aterm both are configurable and both look good |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DuF Advocate
Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 2687 Location: Paris
|
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 1:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
only fluxbox with some essentials dockapps and sometimes I use idesk too ! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
krusty_ar Guru
Joined: 03 Oct 2002 Posts: 560 Location: Rosario, Argentina
|
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
[flamebait] I reslly can't believe that nobody has wondered why there's not a CLI option!!! [/flamebait]
_________________ I am Beta, don't expect correct behaviour from me.
Take part of the adopt an unaswered post initiative |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ebrostig Bodhisattva
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 3152 Location: Orlando, Fl
|
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
Desktop and KDE all the way.
I have been using X-windows since the 80's and run all kinds of window managers.
The problem with a window manager is that it simply is not good enough for my use.
From memory, thiese are the wm's I have tried over the past 15 or so years:
- Motif WM
- twm
- fwvm
- enlightenment (From the first version available and up to E17)
- fluxbox (and other -box'es)
- Sawfish
- metacity
- Afterstep
- Window Maker
- XFCE
- ICEwm
- Oroborus
And quite a few others that I have long forgotten.
Nothing beats a complete desktop system when it comes to productivity. And I'm not talking about running xmms, gkrellm for fun and a browser and a chat client, but doing real work using several huge applications.
The seemless integration between various desktop applications and the ease of confguring comapred to a window manager which is often very minimalistic in what it does. It just doesn't cut it for me.
I really don;t understand why people complain about Gnome and KDE to be huge and slow. In my experience they are more than fast enough. I have to mention that I rarly log in and out, the applications i use, gets started when I log in and I never exit them unless I'm going to a) log out or b) reboot with a new kernel
And even in a busy workday as I have, I can easily wait for an application to load, it's only loaded once, right?
Erik _________________ 'Yes, Firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.' |
|
Back to top |
|
|
shm Advocate
Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 2380 Location: Atlanta, Universe
|
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:22 am Post subject: |
|
|
Mindstab wrote: | Window manager: enlightenment
until e17 comes out
then... "desktop shell" |
This is gonna sound like a troll, but I dont mean it to be, but is e17 *ever* gonna come out? It's been a number of years since development of it started. I know mandrake isn't working on it much anymore.. is rasterman still? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
shm Advocate
Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 2380 Location: Atlanta, Universe
|
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:22 am Post subject: |
|
|
Mindstab wrote: | Window manager: enlightenment
until e17 comes out
then... "desktop shell" |
This is gonna sound like a troll, but I dont mean it to be, but is e17 *ever* gonna come out? It's been a number of years since development of it started. I know mandrake isn't working on it much anymore.. is rasterman still? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mindstab Apprentice
Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Posts: 271 Location: Vancouver, Canada
|
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:36 am Post subject: I know |
|
|
shm: No problem
I know it well myself
Its been ages, and from the mailing lists, it almost looks like its gone backwards since the summer
but, hte devel mailing list seems decently active and rasterman is deep into it. So there is hope, that one day,far off in a bright glorious future, we will have e17 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Curious Bodhisattva
Joined: 13 May 2002 Posts: 395 Location: Sydney, Australia
|
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 2:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
Irony... I was one of the iDesk developers, and yet I use Gnome2 + Metacity.
But I do have a Waimea config lying around, and I use it from time to time. Both are nice - I'm a swinging voter.
-- Curious _________________ Are you down with the Hawk? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
xtsephane68 n00b
Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 14
|
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:37 am Post subject: Re: Desktop Or Window Manager |
|
|
jlowell wrote: | I'd be interested in knowing what percentage of Gentoo users prefer Window Managers and what percentage full scale Desktops. |
I hate those slow stupid things that do a lot of crap like window,
what i need is virtual desktopa bunch of windows and a few hotkeys.
When i use gnome i immediatly turn down sounds/automount, assiting technologies ..
i rarely touch nautilus ..
FVWM or enlightment or anything with a pager ..
something light ...
Gnome dev are plainly stupid, their nice gnome-terminal is 100 time slower than a good old xterm ...
morever it tries to communicate with the gnome factory ...
I use XMMS which beat down all the totem-like crap ..
Good programs are always indpendant of any big plateform ...
I would use Vesa console mode if postcript vievers where better in that mode,
I use computers for latex and emacs ... i m not a programmer.
For sure people with others need may love those heavy machines. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
runningwithscissors Guru
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 454 Location: the third world
|
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
I have gentoo installed on an athlon64 3500+ with 2GB of memory. Decent specs to run KDE. So I do. But without all the transparent compositing stuff, as it slows down the responsiveness of the dektop. Also I use the stripped down basic KDE packages that Portage makes available. I don't have use for all KDE packages. I also use a fairly healthy number of GTK apps.
On my OpenBSD installation, I use Xfce. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PaveQ Apprentice
Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 225 Location: Finland
|
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
Good job for bumping this old topic up. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
at240 l33t
Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 603 Location: UK
|
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
PaveQ wrote: | Good job for bumping this old topic up. | Note, too, that one of the posters from the original part of the thread says shm wrote: | This is gonna sound like a troll, but I dont mean it to be, but is e17 *ever* gonna come out? | Plus ca change... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|