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Jjuulliiaann
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 Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: Big Problem Installing Gentoo on OS X |
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| I downloaded the live CD for PPC and burned it to a cd. Now, I try to restart from the cd, but OS X tells me that there is no system on the cd. Help! |
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TBerrang
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hello, Jjuulliiaann!
Boot up your OSX, insert the Gentoo-livecd, then reboot (with the CD still in the drive) and press (and hold) the "C"-key on your keyboard, until a blue screen appears.  . That should work (at least it worked well for me on MacMini, G3 iMac and Powerbook 15").
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Jjuulliiaann
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| TBerrang wrote: | Hello, Jjuulliiaann!
Boot up your OSX, insert the Gentoo-livecd, then reboot (with the CD still in the drive) and press (and hold) the "C"-key on your keyboard, until a blue screen appears. . That should work (at least it worked well for me on MacMini, G3 iMac and Powerbook 15").
Cheers,
Torsten. |
Thats excactly what I did. It just booted from OS X. I also tried holding option. It didnt show up. I also used command-option-shift-delete. It just booted from OS X. Also, I looked in the startup items panel, and that didnt work. |
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TBerrang
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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 . Very strange. What kind of Mac are you trying to install Gentoo onto? Did you check the CDROM/drive allready?
In the worst case, you'll have to use BootX: http://penguinppc.org/projects/bootx/ , I guess.
Cheers,
Torsten.
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Jjuulliiaann
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| TBerrang wrote: | . Very strange. What kind of Mac are you trying to install Gentoo onto? Did you check the CDROM/drive allready?
In the worst case, you'll have to use BootX: http://penguinppc.org/projects/bootx/ , I guess.
Cheers,
Torsten. |
iMac G4 1.25 Ghz 728 MG RAM, 23 GB Free HD Space.
What is BootX?
Also, I want to install it onto an external HD I have. |
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TBerrang
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thats really strange. Again, can you ensure your CD and/or drive is working flawless? It should be no problem at all to boot up via "C"-key, since you have a really "new" Mac (remember, it even worked for me on my 1996 iMac G3 333MHz/192MB RAM)!
BootX is a tool mainly used for "old world" Macs, like old IBM (RS/6000, iSeries, pSeries) and Amiga systems, that can't boot from a CD without a little "help". You safely can consider you G4 as a "new world"-machine, not needing BootX.
USB HDD should be no problem, just remember to build USB/firewire support into your kernel. Your disk will show up as SCSI-device (/dev/sdx) instead of /dev/hdx.
The bigger problem is getting the livecd to boot, I guess.
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Jjuulliiaann
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| TBerrang wrote: | Thats really strange. Again, can you ensure your CD and/or drive is working flawless? It should be no problem at all to boot up via "C"-key, since you have a really "new" Mac (remember, it even worked for me on my 1996 iMac G3 333MHz/192MB RAM)!
BootX is a tool mainly used for "old world" Macs, like old IBM (RS/6000, iSeries, pSeries) and Amiga systems, that can't boot from a CD without a little "help". You safely can consider you G4 as a "new world"-machine, not needing BootX.
USB HDD should be no problem, just remember to build USB/firewire support into your kernel. Your disk will show up as SCSI-device (/dev/sdx) instead of /dev/hdx.
The bigger problem is getting the livecd to boot, I guess. |
Yeah. Maybe there just isn't a system to boot from on the cd.
Do you have a mirror that you know works and would recommend to me? Point out the specific download, please. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Moved from Installing Gentoo. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Jjuulliiaann are you trying to install Gentoo linux on your mac or trying
to use gentoo for Mac OSX to provide you with unix/linux utilities and program
as fink, for example, would do?
If you are trying to install linux, how did you burn the cd? If you didn't
burn the iso properly you may have a disk image with the iso on your cd
instead of a bootable cd.
If you are trying to install the Gentoo package management system for
mac OS X there is a forum called "Gentoo for mac OS X" on this same site
where they will certainly help you.
Cheers,
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Jjuulliiaann
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| fb wrote: | Jjuulliiaann are you trying to install Gentoo linux on your mac or trying
to use gentoo for Mac OSX to provide you with unix/linux utilities and program
as fink, for example, would do?
If you are trying to install linux, how did you burn the cd? If you didn't
burn the iso properly you may have a disk image with the iso on your cd
instead of a bootable cd.
If you are trying to install the Gentoo package management system for
mac OS X there is a forum called "Gentoo for mac OS X" on this same site
where they will certainly help you.
Cheers,
Francois |
I'm trying to install Gentoo linux on my mac.
I burned the cd with the finder. All I did was I expanded the initial ISO disk image and dragged all of the files that I saw onto the disk. Then, I clicked the little burn button in the finder. |
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Jjuulliiaann
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| fb wrote: | Jjuulliiaann are you trying to install Gentoo linux on your mac or trying
to use gentoo for Mac OSX to provide you with unix/linux utilities and program
as fink, for example, would do?
If you are trying to install linux, how did you burn the cd? If you didn't
burn the iso properly you may have a disk image with the iso on your cd
instead of a bootable cd.
If you are trying to install the Gentoo package management system for
mac OS X there is a forum called "Gentoo for mac OS X" on this same site
where they will certainly help you.
Cheers,
Francois |
Should I expand the disk image or burn it unmounted? |
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fb
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:25 am Post subject: |
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If you use the disk utility (in Applications/Utilities on OS X 10.3.x) you
should have the iso available on the left. If it is mounted, unmount it.
Select the iso (but don't mount it) then go in the "images" menu and select
"burn". If you do something else I think it basically put a file with the iso
inside rather than creating a bootable cd.
I assume from your answer that you want to install linux on your mac,
is this the case?
Hope that helps. |
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TBerrang
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Jjuulliiaann wrote: | I'm trying to install Gentoo linux on my mac.
I burned the cd with the finder. All I did was I expanded the initial ISO disk image and dragged all of the files that I saw onto the disk. Then, I clicked the little burn button in the finder. |
I'm allmost sure this will not work. Doing so, you'll get a CD with all the content on it, but not with the (needed) portions to make it bootable.
I use in most cases "Roxio Toast" to burn my CD's. It's quite simple, open "Toast", use "Burn image file", drag your *.iso file you downloaded into "Toast" and press the big red "burn"-button. Make sure to choose "disc at once (DAO)" in the popp-up burn dialog. I'm not sure if your CD will boot if burned with "TAO", but never tried it.
Cheers,
Torsten.
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Jjuulliiaann
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| fb wrote: | If you use the disk utility (in Applications/Utilities on OS X 10.3.x) you
should have the iso available on the left. If it is mounted, unmount it.
Select the iso (but don't mount it) then go in the "images" menu and select
"burn". If you do something else I think it basically put a file with the iso
inside rather than creating a bootable cd.
I assume from your answer that you want to install linux on your mac,
is this the case?
Hope that helps. |
Ah yes. This should work. Thank you very much. |
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I'm having the exact same problem. I've burned the CD on k3b and Nero (windows). If I browse the CD I can see that the ISO file has not simply been copied to the CD. I'm holding down C when I restart my Mac and it sounds like it's spinning up then the OS X screen just loads. It's as though it's skipping. I just can't figure this out. I have a G4 Quicksilver 733mhz. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 
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robino
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: howto burn an iso? |
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See http://lab.dyne.org/BurningAndBooting for a quick howto.
| Quote: | Using Mac OS X:
-CD Copier : just insert the blank CD to be burned, the CD Copier application will start automatically asking the location of the ISO image file.
-Mac OS X 10.3 PANTHER: start Disk Utility from Applications -> Utils and then click on the menu Image and choose Burn... -> select the dynebolic ISO file and BURN!
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fb
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Tatey wrote: | | I'm having the exact same problem. I've burned the CD on k3b and Nero (windows). If I browse the CD I can see that the ISO file has not simply been copied to the CD. I'm holding down C when I restart my Mac and it sounds like it's spinning up then the OS X screen just loads. It's as though it's skipping. I just can't figure this out. I have a G4 Quicksilver 733mhz. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
Sound like you did everything right to me...
The only thing that comes to mind is did you use the right ISO
for your mac? I didn't do anything like that for quite a while
but the ISO should be platform specific so if you used a x86
instead of a ppc ISO it won't boot on your mac.
k3b should be fine for burning an ISO properly so I don't think
that is the problem.
Francois |
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