The Jackass! Project for Intel ~x86

monkey89 · Guru Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 596

emerge mysql should work all right... having a specific issue? I don't have much experience with gentoo's mysql setup, but I've done plenty of phpbb and apache work before.

-Monkey

Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:19 am Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:37 am Post subject:

have you tried it one command at a time instead of as a oneliner? you might have no other choice than to rebuild the toolkit.
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Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:

obsidianblackhawk · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:32 am Post subject:

Will be installing the p4 stage in t minus 30 min and counting

Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:41 am Post subject:

obsidianblackhawk · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:42 am Post subject:

hey ryan maybee if you asked please first??? just a thought

obsidianblackhawk · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:43 am Post subject:

will do... i'll try some small builds first, and then i'll try a few big ones... test the range ya know

evader · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:52 am Post subject:

Gday,

Wish I could respond in more detail but am at work and away from Gentoo currently.

Bob, your cflags look good. I've been rock solid on slightly less optimised for months.
No world packages have broken. I've used the 1/3 method for a long time and have installed it more than 10 times.

I wouldn't call myself a cflag expert. I dont have somewhere to host tarballs.

I am happy to test/help/encourage/devote compile time to the project.

If I'd come in handy im more than happy to help.
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Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:07 am Post subject:

Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:12 am Post subject:

I managed to get gcc 3.4.3 working on the P3 stage:

Bob P · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:34 am Post subject:

glad to hear that i don't have to tar up my toolkit from the P3.

i have to shut down for a while as we're about to get hit with baseball sized hail.

the good news? the old pentium box just finished compiling the GCC for the first time.

if somebody wants to try those cflags for athlon-xp, that would be cool.

bye for now.
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evader · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:43 am Post subject:

I accept the conditions.
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evader · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:44 am Post subject:

Soon as I'm home tonight I'll start a 1/3 with your cflags bobp
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Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:08 am Post subject:

obsidianblackhawk · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:44 am Post subject:

okay so i got a little delayed and i'm just now starting my testing. Sorry

Bob P · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:18 am Post subject:

well, i'm happy to say that the big nasty storm split in two, and the worst of it went a few miles to the north of me and to the south of me. i feel like i've dodged a bullet!

ryan, this Jackass project is a-rockin'! i've never had an install go so fast on old hardware. the folks that used to moan about bootstrapping Stage 1 on an old pentium are going to LOOOOVE this toolkit!

i've got a couple questions for your guys that i want to get your opinions on:

1. when installing jackass, it seems that the following steps are no longer needed in performing a Stage 3 install:

obsidianblackhawk · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:14 am Post subject:

Okay so so far so good, i'm almost ready to reboot. I tried to emerge gentookit and portage tells me that there is no ebuild for that. I know that as far a just a base install is concerned that emerging gentoolkit is not needed, but any ideas as to why it won't let me emerge it?

Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:14 am Post subject:

1. Yeah, I knew about the resolv.conf's making it into the first test tarballs. :oops:

However I'll blank them in future tarballs, I think it's better to leave them blank and allow them to be configured by the user.

2, 3. Although I think some people would be grateful if we included these in the tarballs, I would be against it for two reasons:

a) It would increase the size of the tarballs, and make the stages impossible to fit on one cd.

b) It decreases the flexibility of the stage. In fact the jackass stage at this point can be installed according to the 2005.0 handbook, which I think shows how little the use of this stage inconveniences the user

If we really wanted to help people out on this one, we could create our own package cd containing binary packages to go along with each of the different stages. If we are just talking about the packages you listed above, this would be a simple task. I can just untar a stage to a partition, complete a stage 3 install, reboot, and emerge the packages with the -B option. Then I can create a cd with four package directories on it, a pentium package dir, pentium2 package dir..... That would be the solution I would rather do. I'm sure those on slower machines would appreciate it.

4. If you want to add those to the make.conf's we can, but I think what's in there now is fine. However, this project is based of your how to, so I'll let you to decide what options you want to add to the make.conf. The only thing I think is a bad idea to add is ccache. I use ccache, I think it is a great program, however if somebody installs this stage (a n00b) and doesn't realize that it's installed and enabled, they could spend alot of time trying to figure out why they are running out of hard disk space (although chances are they'd never notice). Either way I think the choice of whether or not to use ccache should be left to the user.
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obsidianblackhawk · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:16 am Post subject:

Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:22 am Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:24 am Post subject:

1. i will change the docs back to the old way, assuming that you will change the tarballs back to be more like Gentoo 2005.0 tarballs.

2. i agree with your idea about keeping the tarballs lean and providing binaries as an option. that is the optimal solution.

3. preliminary docs should be ready tomorrow as a PDF.

4. Ryan, i am presently working on the files for Copyright and reduced branding. I will email this information to you. BTW, have you received any emails from me tonight?
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Bob P · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:26 am Post subject:

obsidianblackhawk · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:26 am Post subject: