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 Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: How to Sync a Sony Clie with jpilot MINI HOWTO!! (Solved) |
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Hi -- I have at this point successfully backed up my Sony Clie
pilot-xfer --port /dev/ttyUSB1 --backup ./pilot ,
And also gotten it to synch with Jpilot
I feel that newbies could benefit from this post
as an overview of what to do. [It's not for the faint of heart!]
SECTION I -- REFERENCES
For Palm-Linux Newbie's
A) The most coherent overview I've found is right here:
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Handspring-Visor.html
B) An excellent post from the gentoo forum (It actually is the thing that helped me most - and showed me that
you don't need to mess around with evolution or with udev)
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-299095-highlight-jpilot+clie.html
C) Another rather clear overview of what you have to do, and it goes into what kernel options you need to compile in support directly
http://www.linuxlookup.com/html/guides/visor-jpilot.html
D) This is also very good, though again, he favors modules over compiling support in, but he explains what modules
are needed and why they are all called "visor".
http://pilot-link.org/README.usb
E) A less good, but Clie specific one is
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~milnber/cliehowto.html
(The problem with reference "E" is the author assumes you are using modules rather than compiling in support. Still, it has many good parts, specifically, it talks about how to mount the Clie and its memory stick as read/writeable devices)
SECTION II -- PROCEDURE
How to get as far as synching with pilot-xfer
(1) emerge jpilot (it also emerges pilot-xfer if you haven't installed that already)
(2) Recompile kernel with Palm support. There are other posts on how to do this, but I'm having a hard time finding them, so here are the essentials:
Here are several important lines from my /usr/src/linux/.config file
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CONFIG_USB=y
CONFIG_USB_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_HID=y
CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=y
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR=y
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No one recommends editing .config by hand, so here is how those lines got there:
/usr/src/linux/make menuconfig
Then (Each slash (/) denotes another level deep in menuconfig)
/ Device Drivers / USB Support
Enable EHCI and OHCI and UHCI support
Enable USB HID (full support) and HID input layer (the next option in menuconfig)
Finally locate and enable "USB Serial Converter Support" , descend another level
and finally enable
USB Handspring Visor / Palm m50x / Sony Clie Driver (it's all one line)
(3) I'm assuming you know how to recompile and install your kernel after make menuconfig.
(4) Now attach your Palm or Sony Clie with USB support.
(5) Can do dmesg or, what I like tail -f /var/log/messages (as root of course)
You will see nothing, then, when press the hot-sync button on palm, you'll see this:
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Mar 24 17:06:35 dirac hub 1-0:1.0: state 5 ports 8 chg ff00 evt 0040
Mar 24 17:06:35 dirac ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: GetStatus port 6 status 001803 POWER sig=j CSC CONNECT
Mar 24 17:06:35 dirac hub 1-0:1.0: port 6, status 0501, change 0001, 480 Mb/s
Mar 24 17:06:35 dirac hub 1-0:1.0: debounce: port 6: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x501
Mar 24 17:06:35 dirac ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: port 6 full speed --> companion
Mar 24 17:06:35 dirac ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: GetStatus port 6 status 003001 POWER OWNER sig=se0 CONNECT
Mar 24 17:06:35 dirac ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: wakeup
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac hub 3-0:1.0: state 5 ports 4 chg fff0 evt 0008
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: GetStatus roothub.portstatus [2] = 0x00010101 CSC PPS CCS
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac hub 3-0:1.0: port 3, status 0101, change 0001, 12 Mb/s
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac hub 3-0:1.0: debounce: port 3: total 100ms stable 100ms status 0x101
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: GetStatus roothub.portstatus [2] = 0x00100103 PRSC PPS PES CCS
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 9
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: GetStatus roothub.portstatus [2] = 0x00100103 PRSC PPS PES CCS
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: ep0 maxpacket = 16
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: default language 0x0409
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: Product: Palm Handheld
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc.
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: hotplug
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: adding 3-3:1.0 (config #1, interface 0)
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3:1.0: hotplug
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac visor 3-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac visor 3-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: palm_os_4_probe - error -32 getting connection info
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac visor 3-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1
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Congratulations! -- Linux sees your Palm. Now there is some discussion about just where to mount it. There are those who say it goes in
/dev/tts/1 or some such, but the messages above suggest it wants to go in /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1.
I've been able to glean
that /dev/ttyUSB1 is the correct device for hotsynching, so, in jpilot, under prefs, you put /dev/ttyUSB1.
It can be useful to have a link between /dev/pilot and /dev/ttyUSB1. For example, then you can run "install-user" with
default port settings, and also run Jpilot with default settings. Here is how to do that. It can't hurt!
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cd /dev
ln -s /dev/ttyUSB1 pilot
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Then in Jpilot, I can use /dev/pilot as the synching device in preferences.
One problem is that I had no /dev/ttyUSB1.
(The error I got then was: "unable to bind to the port")
So I created /dev/ttyUSB1 as follows.
| Code: | mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0
mknod /dev/ttyUSB1 c 188 1
mknod /dev/ttyUSB2 c 188 2
mknod /dev/ttyUSB3 c 188 3
etc...
chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB* |
Here is how jpilot looked when I click "Sync" after doing that.
****************************************
Syncing on device /dev/ttyUSB1
Press the HotSync button now
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[AND SO YOU PRESS HOTSYNC]
pi_bind Invalid argument
Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
Finished
Despite this error, this represents progress. Before I did the mknod commands above, I got a
"unable to bind to the port" error from jpilot. That error is specifically mentioned here:
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Handspring-Visor.html
So, what's the final step? It turns out that the pilot-xfer package comes with several useful utilities. The most critical of these is
install-user. Now install-user, if provided with arguments, will create a user in your Palm (and perhaps wipe out an existing one?).
Fortunately, if run w/o arguments, it merely sucks existing user and UserID info out of a palm. So, if it's a new Palm and Linux is its first
OS, you need to create a user with Install User. If it's already been setup on a Windows machine, just suck that info out.
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install-user
No $PILOTPORT specified and no -p <port> given.
Defaulting to '/dev/pilot'
Port not connected, sleeping for 2 seconds, 3 retries..
Listening to port: /dev/pilot
Please press the HotSync button now... Connected
Palm user: Mahatma Gandhi
UserID: 7402
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Once install-user has been run, Jpilot sucks the user and UserID out of wherever it put them. (Haven't figured out where that is, but no matter!)
SECTION III - ERRORS
1) Note from my dmesg I still get this error, even though everything works great.
Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: palm_os_4_probe - error -32 getting connection info
Like so many errors, it doesn't seem to matter. Everything works fine. Ignore it!
2) Here's a nice error: "unable to bind to the port" (This shows up when try to Sync in Jpilot).
It translates as, "You need to create /dev/ttyUSB1 ... dummy".
3) Here's my final error, also from Jpilot when trying to Sync.)
pi_bind Invalid argument
Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
This one means: "You never ran install-user".
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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instead of using /dev/ttyUSB1 to sync, can U use /dev/usb/tts/1 ??
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:18 am Post subject: Where I'm stuck |
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This works!!
pilot-xfer --port /dev/ttyUSB1 --backup ./pilot
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Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1
Please press the HotSync button now... Connected
Backing up ./pilot/WmCrncs.pdb
Backing up ./pilot/Auto Log DB.pdb
Backing up ./pilot/ScrabbleLTHDB.pdb
Backing up ./pilot/ScrabbleDB.pdb
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So my remaining problem is only with jpilot. Or perhaps I don't understand conduits.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: That didn't work |
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/dev/USB/tts/1 didn't work. Same error as /dev/ttyUSB1.
Got another idea ... or can you explain the error?? And thanks much for your quick response!!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:25 am Post subject: Re: MORE PROGRESS!! |
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| pcardout wrote: | | (BTW -- Do you know those ladies who are on your icon ... quite an eyeful even at 80x60 pixels!) |
They have been on my desktop for a while now... called the Digital Girls... they are not a photograph...
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Not sure what the error is... Does the user you are trying to sync with have access to /dev/ttyUSB1 ??
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:48 am Post subject: |
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The How-To that I cited in my first post recommended after the mknod that one do a
chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB1
in order to finesse all these permissions issues. So yes, my user does have permissions.
OTOH -- I haven't created any users in JPilot ... it isn't clear where you do that. I thought maybe
on the first sync it would happen (as on Windoze).
Too, there is some post suggesting that jpilot needs to be
told it's talking to a Clie [scratch that, it's KPilot that needs that, not jpilot!] |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:04 am Post subject: Possible sources of remaining problems with jpilot |
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Excepts from my /var/log/messages:
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Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
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Should "SerialNumber=0" make me suspicious?
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Mar 24 17:06:36 dirac usb 3-3: palm_os_4_probe - error -32 getting connection info
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So what's error -32 ... and does it matter? |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:02 am Post subject: ALL SOLVED -- SONY CLIE / PILOT / HOTSYNC SETUP with JPilot |
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You are reading a long thread as I suffered through a new Linux Pilot setup. I'm done now. It works ... All happy. Read the first post of the thread for a HOWTO.
Please add more detail if you want in subsequent posts. I might actually make a formal HOWTO sometime.
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