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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Linux Newb Reply with quote

Hi,
i want to install gentoo 2005.0 AMD64, to my SECOND ide hard drive. How do i do this?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Newb Reply with quote

JediPottsy wrote:
Hi,
i want to install gentoo 2005.0 AMD64, to my SECOND ide hard drive. How do i do this?


Heh, just do everything like normal except make sure you use hdb instead of hda.

By second I persume you mean primary slave.

h is for IDE, s is for SCSI
d is fork disk
<a-z> is disk number
[n] is partition number

so hdb is first primary master IDE disk, hdd1 is secondary slave IDE disk first partition :)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go throught the install instructions and swap the first hard drive (normally hda or sda) for hdb or sdb.

Make sure it is set in your grub.conf as well
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow fast reply thnx. Btw which file system should i use?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jesus, dont ask this... It all depends on the size of the files. ext3 is probably your best bet, reiserfs (3.6) is good (i use it) reiser4 is..... no comment..... try reiserfs
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JediPottsy,

Use ext2 for /boot and ext3 for most other things.
ext2 is not journelled, so that saves 32Mb on small filesystems
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, i typed in

# mke2fs /dev/hdb1
mke2fs 1.35 (28-feb-2004)
/dev/hdb1 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!
# mke2fs -j /dev/hdb3

mke2fs 1.35 (28-feb-2004)
/dev/hdb3 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!

# mkswap /dev/hdb2
setting up swapspace version1, size = 518184 kB

# swapon /dev/hdb2
swapon: /dev/hdb3: Device or resource busy


whats gone wrong?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to make sure the drives/partitions are not mounted before formatting them. What's the output of mount -l?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you clean the partitions before trying to install and mount the new filesystems on hdb?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know what that means...i tried mount-l and it said

-/bin/bash : mount-l: command not found



never mind, i deleted partitions, saved (w)
then remade the partitions and it seems to be working
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just type
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mount
and give us the output
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its ok now, its working, and im downloading the snapshot :D thnx .... dont worry ill prolly get stuck again...somewhere else
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok downloaded the portage, what do i have to do now? (i chose stage3) do i have to
Configuring the Compile Options?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JediPottsy, If you don't read that friggin' manual thrice before asking that particular question it's "Boom! To the moon.."
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shade266,

Now, have patience with the noob. We have a case of youth being wasted on the young here.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, i just saw this:
Warning: Although it might be tempting for non-stage1 users, they should not change the CHOST setting in make.conf. Doing so might render their system unusable. Again: only change this variable if you use a stage1 installation.


and didnt know weather to change or not.
Ok, im using a amd64, should i use

-mtune=k8 -02 -pipe
or
-march=athlon64 -02 -pipe

?

and then keep

cxxflags="${cflags}"
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JediPottsy wrote:
ok downloaded the portage, what do i have to do now? (i chose stage3) do i have to
Configuring the Compile Options?
dude, we're not going to go through with you step by step with you, you have to do it yourself and learn through the manual, then you will be able to come back and help others.

We dont like saying RTFM at gentoo but we have such good documentation that everything should be clear.

Come back nd ask when you run into something that isn't in the manual.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JediPottsy,

mtune is the new way march the old way, they both work for now.
You want
Code:
-fomit-frame-pointer
too.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JediPottsy wrote:
sorry, i just saw this:
Warning: Although it might be tempting for non-stage1 users, they should not change the CHOST setting in make.conf. Doing so might render their system unusable. Again: only change this variable if you use a stage1 installation.


and didnt know weather to change or not.
Ok, im using a amd64, should i use

-mtune=k8 -02 -pipe
or
-march=athlon64 -02 -pipe

?

and then keep

cxxflags="${cflags}"

use
Code:
CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JediPottsy, I apologize to you. I have been through just as much frustraation and insanity as the rest of the new users to gentoo or linux altogether. But it will definitely serve a genuine purpose of learning if you read and absorb the info in the guides and the forums. But I have confidence in you.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn

ive done

CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JediPottsy wrote:
damn

ive done

CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
That is fine, omitting frame pointers has much less effect on x86_64 machines than they do on x86 so dont worry about that or shade266 :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phew
thought id have to start over again.
ok im just running genkernel.....i hope theres not much more to go


it says

>>compiling 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 bzimage....

its been on that for a while.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JediPottsy,

Rule 1 You never need to 'start over'
Thats a bad habit you get from other Operating Systems.

Rule 2. See rule 1
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im guessing tht means ive learnt bad habbits from m$.....
ok neway, its moved to

compiling 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 modules


i do like the nice purple bar at the bottom...

neway, is it this hard to get css to work on linux aswell?
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