Advantages to Stage1?

pyro120 · n00b Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

I have installed a gentoo system for my friend and am looking to do one myself, I just picked up a new hard drive for it and was looking through the installation manual. My question is: for an installation will I will do little more then surfing the web, chatting, and listening to music.. are there any advantages to using a stage1 installation where a bootstrap is required?

A.J.

Frodg · l33t Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 761

In reality there is little benefit in doing the stage 1...
Stage three is as good, any optimisations can be done after the installation. You will notice little if any improvement in doing the Stage1 (other than saying you have done it

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/dev/random · Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:00 am Post subject:

Well you wind up doing a stage1 anyway because all those packages provided by the stage3 tarball will be updated at some point. The real advantage is you get to tweak the tool chain with USE flags and the like. For example, with stage3 I don't think you can get glibc with nptl which among other things makes java based applications run a lot more smoothly.

I would suggest grabbing a stage3 tarball adding nptl to your USE flags and doing:

VValdo · Guru Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 395

taurus · Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject:

Me too. Always start from Stage 1 whether it's my Pentium 4 at home or AMD64 in my office!!! :lol:

taurus

mattjgalloway · l33t Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 761 Location: Coventry, UK

Definately go for a Stage 1 on 3 install which is where you use a stage 3 tarball but rebuild the tool chain. Basically it's

untar stage3
untar portage
chroot
emerge linux-headers glibc binutils gcc
gcc-config [new_gcc_version]
emerge glibc binutils gcc portage
emerge -e system

After chrooting you can set your USE, CHOST, CFLAGS settings and you might also want to add ~x86 for gcc, gcc-config, libstdc++-v3 because then you get the latest gcc.

But check out this for more info:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-314985.html
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pyro120 · n00b Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 14

Well I am not much for bragging rights so I think I will choose a Stage2. I dont need to be able to say I did stage1.... yet anyway.

A.J.

racoontje · Veteran Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 1290

On AMD64 there is no reason to do stage1 over 3, unlike x86. AMD64 has gcc3.4 by default, plus you can bootstrap with nptl and nptlonly etc.

mattjgalloway · l33t Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 761 Location: Coventry, UK

Having GCC 3.4 by default isn't why people do a stage 1 on 3...

To be honest I think it's a much more sensible install method anyway - it's much easier and I now have a script which does it all for me - I just edit slightly with which packages I want installed at the end. Usually takes around a day to complete. My first Gentoo install was a stage 1 which took about 3 days in total. Same hardware in both cases...
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