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ggeek
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 Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 2:37 pm Post subject: KDE 3.1 and 3.05 mess :-) |
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Actually it is not mess anymore :-> It was just me being too stupid to figure it out!
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| Code: | emerge unmerge /var/db/pkg/kdebase/kdebase-ver/kdebasex-xxxx.ebuild
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Will do the job, and I've done it for all old ebuilds and now I have quite clean tree 
Good thing IS that my ebuild of "digikam" and "sim" are still working flawlesly with new version of KDE... nice...
IMHO - If I wished to do that on Mandrake or Redhat, I would end up with headache and lot of deps and broken links and stuff... but this is just great!
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green sun
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 4:40 pm Post subject: Hmmm... |
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| I've wondered why there are not ebuilds for many KDE themes.. .IMHO, many of the themes could benefit from ebuilds, as building from source is sometimes difficult at best... |
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BlueEar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 5:30 pm Post subject: KDE 3.1 build wants to dowgrade gnome cc and panel |
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When I ran emerge -p kde, among other dependencies I got the following:
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[ebuild UD] gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1 [2.0.3-r1]
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-panel-1.4.2-r1 [2.0.11]
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(Both control center and panel are to be downgraded to 1.4) Is this inevitable? Any way around it, short of not installing KDE? |
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pilla
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: KDE 3.1 build wants to dowgrade gnome cc and panel |
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AFAIK, gnome uses SLOTs, so it will only install the packages and not to downgrade them
| BlueEar wrote: | When I ran emerge -p kde, among other dependencies I got the following:
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[ebuild UD] gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1 [2.0.3-r1]
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-panel-1.4.2-r1 [2.0.11]
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(Both control center and panel are to be downgraded to 1.4) Is this inevitable? Any way around it, short of not installing KDE? |
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Evangelion
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: KDE 3.1 build wants to dowgrade gnome cc and panel |
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| BlueEar wrote: | When I ran emerge -p kde, among other dependencies I got the following:
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[ebuild UD] gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1 [2.0.3-r1]
[ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-panel-1.4.2-r1 [2.0.11]
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(Both control center and panel are to be downgraded to 1.4) Is this inevitable? Any way around it, short of not installing KDE? |
Instead of worrying about the downgrade in the apps, I would be wondering why _GNOME_ apps are listed as a dependancy to KDE  ! |
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idl
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Instead of worrying about the downgrade in the apps, I would be wondering why _GNOME_ apps are listed as a dependancy to KDE ! |
LOL I was wondering when someone was gonna pick up on that. Bloody Bastard, how did you miss that one?  undefined |
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AgentUSA
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Well for RC5, xmms was a dependency of KDE on my box. And if you have gnome in your use flags, then xmms will try and install the older control center and gnome panel. I removed the gnome use flag temporarily and emerged xmms. I then emerged KDE. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I removed the gnome use flag temporarily and emerged xmms. I then emerged KDE. |
Good answer. Even though I use Gnome myself, the gnome flag is really unnecessary for the xmms build (it works fine with plain old gtk1 alone) and I always temporarily disable it too. |
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pilla
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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I thought that his concerns were about downgrading the selected components...
| port001 wrote: | | Quote: | | Instead of worrying about the downgrade in the apps, I would be wondering why _GNOME_ apps are listed as a dependancy to KDE ! |
LOL I was wondering when someone was gonna pick up on that. Bloody Bastard, how did you miss that one? undefined |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| AgentUSA wrote: | | Well for RC5, xmms was a dependency of KDE |
In kdeaddons there is a xmms applet for KDE's panel, which is build if one specifies xmms support in the USE variable. xmms optionally has a gnome 1.2 panel applet, which gets build when gnome is in USE. Thus kde will install xmms and a part of gnome 1.2 if xmms and gnome is in USE.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:41 pm Post subject: blocked package |
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I am a GNOME user usually, but I thought I'd try this new KDE, but when I run
emerge -p kde
I get a message saying:
[ B ] x11-libs/xft (from pkg x11-libs/qt-2.3.2-r)
how do I unblock this and why is it blocked ??? |
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c_kuzmanic
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Well, i just upgraded from 3.1_rc5 to 3.1 stable and I must say I'm very impressed:) Thank to the KDE/Gentoo Dev's for making this possible.
Unfortunately, my fellow Gentoo users have turned me into a hopeless fluxbox junkie, so all I'll ever see of KDE 3.1 is konqueror, which I use under fluxbox:)
Oh, just a quick note to those complaining about "bloat" when it comes to KDE:
KDE is the open-source juggernaught that makes Windows XP look like crap, it's meant to provide as much functionality as users continually demand from it. If there's one Window Manager that can take on Windows in Terms of functionality and ease-of-use, it's definitely KDE. For those of us who prefer simpler WM's, there's a plethora of choices, so let's all be happy that KDE even exists and let's promote it to people who have never heard of it. |
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out'fdabox
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Here's how I unmerged the old version:
| Code: | | emerge /var/db/pkg/kde-base/*/*3.0.5* -Cp |
Feedback appreciated.
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Snake007uk
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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can i just do
emerge -u world
so that will update my kde_rc6 to kde 3.1 official release ?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 11:02 pm Post subject: crossing my fingers for tabbed browsing! |
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I have been using rc_5 as long as it's been available and 3.1 is quit impressive. Tabbed browsing needed some work though. I am upgrading as I write this so hopefully 3.1 final has better support.  |
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Snake007uk
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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but how do i upgrade my beta rc6 to final ?? or do i have to compile from scratch ?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:04 am Post subject: Re: blocked package |
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| l0st3d wrote: | I am a GNOME user usually, but I thought I'd try this new KDE, but when I run
emerge -p kde
I get a message saying:
[ B ] x11-libs/xft (from pkg x11-libs/qt-2.3.2-r)
how do I unblock this and why is it blocked ??? |
Well, it is trying to install an old qt version.
Try this instead:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p kde
This should give you the 3.1 packages.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| Snake007uk wrote: | but how do i upgrade my beta rc6 to final ?? or do i have to compile from scratch ?
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emerge -u world should do it.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| out'fdabox wrote: | Here's how I unmerged the old version:
| Code: | | emerge /var/db/pkg/kde-base/*/*3.0.5* -Cp |
Feedback appreciated. |
It worked quite well for me... but still a lot of "leftovers" in /usr/kde/3/lib and /usr/kde/3/share
Is this stuff that is still needed by my system even though I've removed kde 3.0.*? |
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useofweapons
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| out'fdabox wrote: | Here's how I unmerged the old version:
| Code: | | emerge /var/db/pkg/kde-base/*/*3.0.5* -Cp |
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Yep, that worked well for me too. Thanks |
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Snake007uk
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:18 am Post subject: |
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i did
emerge -u world
and now all i get is the XFREE startup and i cant get it changed ??
and cant even switch terminals ?
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out'fdabox
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| HotShotDJ wrote: | | out'fdabox wrote: | Here's how I unmerged the old version:
| Code: | | emerge /var/db/pkg/kde-base/*/*3.0.5* -Cp |
Feedback appreciated. |
It worked quite well for me... but still a lot of "leftovers" in /usr/kde/3/lib and /usr/kde/3/share
Is this stuff that is still needed by my system even though I've removed kde 3.0.*? |
Well... there might be some config in there...
What the heck! Im gonna zap it when 3.1 is compiled !
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| Snake007uk wrote: | i did
emerge -u world
and now all i get is the XFREE startup and i cant get it changed ??
and cant even switch terminals ?
Snake |
Try emerge world --deep -u
chech in rc.conf that you have this line:
Hope I helped
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:31 am Post subject: |
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trhats the problem i cnat get to the terminal ?
it boots straight to gui ??
ive tried alt-f1
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| Snake007uk wrote: | trhats the problem i cnat get to the terminal ?
it boots straight to gui ??
ive tried alt-f1 |
when youre in X you have to do Ctrl-Alt F1
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