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royal wino
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:15 am    Post subject: What Linux Resource to use? Reply with quote

Hi,
I've got gentoo compiled and am working out a few things.
Any suggestions on a good reference book?
Looking for something that is able to be of help to someone new to LINUX.
A good basic reference book that one can use to build upon.
Wayne
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I had to do a happy dance when I rebooted gentoo and was successful! 8)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about books, but the Gentoo docs contain plenty of howtos and configuration tips. You'll be busy for months and you'll learn just about everything that you'll find in a book.

Better yet, go to the Documentation, Tips & Tricks forum and just pick a project that interests you.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also like to just browse through these forums. You run into tips and questions regarding different ways of doing things. I have found some tips on things I really wanted to do, but didn't even know was possible. I especially like the Documentation Tips and Tricks forum.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, yes there is a lot of info in those places. I'm looking for a good reference for basics.
Here's an example, ran DMESG hit some navigation buttons on keyboard couldn't get to the top of the DMESG report. Exit linux, boot win 2000, search internet, find I just have to hit contr+PGup.
Exit 2000, boot gentoo, rerun dmesg use mine new found command.
As good as the forums and doc section is it assumes you have a working knowledge of the language a lot of times.
Anything done online is a pain at 26k and until I get my linux OS completely up and functioning its a real hassle.
My knowledge of linux is I knew it was and what I learned installing gentoo.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, good point, but even with a good book in front of you, you'll have difficulty finding the "command used to go one page up while running DMESG". I'd still recc'd the forums if you weren't running at 26k (Dear lord, I'm sorry).

Seeing as you're running slower than a river in winter, how about the dummy series? They're great for starters and not at all "dumb".....

P.S. Type this to see the top of dmesg:

$ dmesg | less

The space bar advances one page, enter advances one line, and 'b' goes back one page
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might also try the Introduction to Linux from the Linux Documentation Project. That goes over some of the basics.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you want to learn admin stuff i would look up some bash scripting stuff, the big prob all the unices have is there isnt one simple way of doing stuff, this does provide massive flexability but leads to the situation where you constantly learn somethink new, the linux certifications are also worth reading even if a bit easy.


one point i would raise is when you come from windows you dont realise what is possible till you see stuff like network transparancy etc in action.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best way to learn Linux is to find a project that you really want to do (Setup a webserver, setup FTP, setup mail with webmail and virtual domains, setup Intrusion detection, setup firewall, start using machien as a server...etc).


Reading abstracts (and they will be abstracts untill you actually apply them), won't do much good as there are always small problems and complications that you will run into in the real world.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whimpy,
That was just what I was looking for, good reference of basic commands, shows how to use and access the "on board"
reference material, and lots of links to more material. Looks like I got lots to read. :D
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorits

1. Linux Administration Handbook - Nemeth, Snyder & Hein - http://www.admin.com/
2. Running Linux - Welsh, Dawson, Dalheimer & Kaufman - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux4/
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