The F? Virtual Window Manager (part 3)

[Zyne]

[rkaerner]

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The third part. "Some of them must be fools to talk about such an old wm like fvwm more than 3 Sentences." that was my point of view until now. I've just a pentibum 3 with 735 MHz and kde needs 25 Seconds from pressing enter in kdm to give me some icons to click on. Well, I emerged fvwm, fvwm-themes and fvwm-themes-extra and spent some hours to find a solution why kdm did'nt start fvwm. Well, what shall I say? kde needs 25 Seconds. fvwm needs ten percent of this time to give me a gui.

Now there are many problems to solve (like editing background for the osx theme oder change netscape to firefox and many other things). But I think: you got me. I need a solution for the near future to emerge Gentoo on a 233 MHZ Thinkpad. kde there isn't the answer, it is just the question, and the answer must be "no!". fvwm looks quite fine and useable. If I understand how to manage my problems before I am 65 years old (I am now 38 years old) then fvwm could be the solution for me and my old machines (900 MHz is the fastest CPU here. Why not? I am not running windows, for what do I need a penis replacement in form of a brand new 3 GHz machine?

To all you out there: thanks, thanks, thanks. I have to thank you very, very much for opening my eyes to notice an alternative to kde (which, since 3.4, makes very ugly things like no system sound and many other things).

Ralph
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[ThomasAdam]

[rkaerner]

[rkaerner]

okay, so here we are with the first question:

I played a while with the .fvwm2rc from taviso. My config looks like that in the moment (I want to do anything step by step, so if one thing works, I try the next):

[ThomasAdam]

[mirko_3]

Especially since you're running on old hardware, I'd suggest (once you're done with everything else) looking into the little program written in C to create thumbnails... It's on the fvwm forums, though there is a link to it in this thread...
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[rkaerner]

[ThomasAdam]

[hollerith]

I started with Taviso's config. Boroshan's step-by-step guide is a n00b bible. He's even written a fvwm module in Perl to do thumbnails. Check the latter posts of this thread (volume 3). There's a forum too. fvwm.lair.be, I think.

I depended on Thomas Adam too. One of the first sites I found. (Thanks guys). This thread is enormous but. I read it all when it was in one part - now its how long? Is it the longest running gentoo thread? Can't help wondering.

As regards fvwm's lazarus effect on old boxen, I, certainly vouch. For I am the proud owner of an Advent 7255DVD laptop (bit of old Asus Coppermine tat rebranded by Dixons) on which fvwm used to start so quickly that initially I thought something had gone awry with the emerge. (I didn't realise somehow that you had to right click for a context menu) :oops

Benefits are multiple. You can emulate almost any other WM with fvwm, and then do more; your own desktop thumbnails, ring menus?. It should be XVWM. There's lot's to like: I even like how 'vwm' are next to each other on dvorak. (Hey - you type .fvwmrc a lot...)


Shameless fanboy.

[mirko_3]

I've searched the manpage, but haven't found what I'm looking for: is there any way to have an app steal focus on a certain event (the app becomes visible when I press a key - I'm thinking about FvwmEvent)?
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[ThomasAdam]

[ThomasAdam]

[mirko_3]

Thank, it seems I hadn't seen the FlipFocus command in the manpage...
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[rkaerner]

Okay, I need your help once more, please.

There are - at the moment - just two simple problems.
The first is my bad knowledge about the english language. That's why I can't solve the second problem.
http://www.kaerner.net/fvwmscreen.jpg shows you a screenshot of my 'testbase' (just learning by doing, as usual for me).
xmms could not be iconified by taking a snapshot (I am still using tavisos thumbnail and it works fine). I thought that I could solve this about a defined icon (just a handmade snapshot of xmms with gimp or something like that), but I could not find a solution. The second thing is that a don't want to have any title at the bottom of the snapshots. I just want to have the snapshots, they are title enough for me.

Anybody out there who can help me?

[hollerith]

[aidy]

My windowbar buttons can't be pressed, am I doing something wrong? (The lines that should make them work are in 'global stuff')

[InfinityX]

I've made a new script, this time for fully dynamic menus, ordering applications by popularity!

You can download it here. It's still very early, and if you don't have a good understanding of MySQL I wouldn't bother downloading it, at this stage all the database manipulation is manual (I've included a sample sql file to help out though).

EDIT: Moved to FVWM forum.

[aidy]

Now I exited FVWM and when I started it again, My FVWM-Buttons didn't show the Icons!!!

[theBlackDragon]

[aidy]

Heh... If I use xcompmgr, I can't go to my other desktop parts by pushing the desktop border, it still works if I drag a window while pushing... Any solutions to this?
Hmm... it seems to work sometimes, I think right after I start xcompmgr...
[EDIT]
It doesn't get solved when I kill xcompmgr...
Oh, just found out that it works after I restart FVWM. But it would be a bit stupid to call the rstart function from the init function or so...
[EDIT]
It really works when I put "+ I 'restart'" in the InitFunction!! But that's no real solution in fact...

[rkaerner]

[ag_x]

[aidy]

Hmm... would be quite easy to maximise in only one half of a desktop (part), but make them behave as two different desktops is another story AFAIK.

[Darkael]