Gnome 2.10 (part 2)

DecayCell · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject:

Create a new user, log in with it, and see whether all goes well. If it does, it's something to do with your config files...

sog · Guru Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 356

anybody know why pam might kick out? i got about halfway through the build, but the emerge of pam kicked out with the following:

aarestad · n00b Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 32 Location: Chicago, USA

jonnevers · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject:

downey · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject:

I've been having a few weird problems with the menus so far. When I first updated I ended up with 2 quake3 menu items in Applications/Games and I was missing a XMMS item in Video & Sound. I poked around /usr/share/applications and xmms.display was there and looked to be correct and the same with quake3.desktop. There looks to be a gnome-menu-spec-test command that you can run that will list the applications that it parses correctly. I noticed xmms was missing so I started messing around with the xmms.desktop file.

Once I changed the Encoding field to UTF-8 xmms started appearing up in the list, but it had no icon. I then changed the Icon field to /usr/share/pixmaps/mini/xmms_mini.xpm and everything works correct now. I would suppect that gnome-2.10 should support relative directories in the Icon path so I'm wondering if something is wrong with my system. Did anyone else have any issues with XMMS? Also I still haven't figured out why I'm getting 2 quake3 menu items. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

tweak13 · n00b Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 4

I'm having that same problem with XMMS (maybe a few others too, my menus overall seem a lot less populated than before) as seen in this thread. I can't figure out why it isn't working, everything seems correct to me. I'm also having trouble with sound since I upgraded. Every time I reboot every channel gets muted and I have to run alsamixer and set everything again. This and other crap has me ready to downgrade but with the meta package still listing itself as 2.8.3-r1 I don't know if that's even possible.

Watching my roommate use KDE without fighting it is making me want to switch back to that again too *shudders*

russianpirate · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject:

how can u add directories to menu (.directory)
i tried putting .directory files in /usr/share/applications but it didnt show up

also after editing with denu there was Other in the Menu which i could only remove by removing the whole menu from /etc/xdg/menus but how can i actually remove just the items, theyre not in ~/.config ~/.denu or /usr/share/applications

downey · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:02 pm Post subject:

Have you looked in /usr/share/desktop-directories/ ? There looks to be quite a bit of stuff in there. Not too sure how it all works. I would say that the whole gnome menu stuff is in a fairly development state right now. Hopefully they will have things sorted out by 2.10.1 or 2.10.2.

tscolari · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject:

im having problems with menus too...

i dont know, each new version of gnome they cut off an useful thing... I dont use a lot gnome, just using it while im working in my fvwm theme... but before there was a very nice aplication manager where was easy and nice to configure which program use with each kind of file, then they cutted it in the 2.8.
In the 2.8 you could add itens to menus without problem by the right button, now in the 2.10 this doesnt exist anymore...
just getting more disapointed with each new version

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russianpirate · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject:

GaMMa · l33t Joined: 23 Aug 2002 Posts: 684 Location: USA

I think they're just trying to make gnome more modular and incorporate more projects (and dependencies

). Gnome-2.12 will probably havea seperate menu editor program.. They might have tried to include something like denu but couldn't make it stable enough before the feature freeze..
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GaMMa · l33t Joined: 23 Aug 2002 Posts: 684 Location: USA

Doogman · Apprentice Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 242

OK, I fixed all the minor Gnome menu quirks I had with my system. Here's some tips:

The program "gnome-menu-spec-test" is your friend. It will tell you where in the filesystem the menu entries are hiding. Also, you do NOT need to log out/in to see changes. They show up immediately.

doug@ghidorah applications $ gnome-menu-spec-test | grep xmms
Sound & Video/ xmms.desktop /usr/share/applications/xmms.desktop

Here's what a dupe looks like:

doug@ghidorah applications $ gnome-menu-spec-test | grep -i blob
Games/ blobwars.desktop /usr/share/gnome/apps/Games/blobwars.desktop
Games/ kde-blobwars.desktop /usr/share/applnk/Games/Arcade/blobwars.desktop

Xmms was the only "broken" .desktop file I found. I think this is all I changed:

Encoding=UTF-8
Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/mini/xmms_mini.xpm

Using the program mentioned above and a text editor should allow you to fix-up your menus. I believe I had only one missing entry, xmms, and a few dupes. Of course YMMV.

GaMMa · l33t Joined: 23 Aug 2002 Posts: 684 Location: USA

AHA! I found out how to get the battery applet to update when the AC is unplugged/replugged. Add acpi_irq_balance to the boot line. Wohoo

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rrowv · n00b Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 16

FYI, gnome and gnome-light 2.10 stable are now in the portage tree (everything else has been there for days). Think I'l take the dive tomorrow

iormungand · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject:

Hi,

bertaboy · l33t Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 604

gnome is unmasked for x86 now...

wickwire · n00b Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 71

pinger wrote:

hoschi · Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:50 pm Post subject:

is that right:

gnome-network has been masked, for the new baselayout -> incompatible?
-> and this is the reason why "network-applet" is no longer working correct?
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benedictbrown · n00b Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Posts: 8

Does anybody know what happened to the wireless link applet in gnome 2.10? It's gone, and I don't believe it's part of the gnome-network package.

Also, the keyboard switcher applet is no longer displaying flags for the different layouts (or even text labels). Instead it only displays a generic x-in-a-circle image. This is, of course, extremely irritating. Perhaps there's another package with the pixmaps that I need to install? Some of the other applets certainly required new support packages in 2.10 from 2.8.

Thanks,
Benedict

benedictbrown · n00b Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Posts: 8

wickwire · n00b Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 71

Going to the Gnome Control Panel and changing the keyboard layout (apart from setting the language) seems to fix it - I'm using a Porguese keyboard and up until now the settings were for Generic 101-key PC, changing it to Generic 104-key PC solved my problem - however I'm still missing the "minor" "major" keys, Generic 105-key PC won't work...

After typing and only watching the cursor blink on the console, not actually writing anything, when exiting FVWM and X I'd get errors refering ASCII codes not being found... Hope this Helps!

GroennDemon · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject:

Ok, so now I've updated to Gnome 2.10. After fixing several config files in /etc, my system more or less worked again.

But why is my Gnome menu suddenly so small? Seems like a lot is missing... at least XMMS.

Btw, is there a way to get rid of those irritating labels? I KNOW that that menu contains my applications, we don't need to use so much space for it.

And what about the icons (on my desktop etc.): Isn't there a way to make them smaller (generally, not only the ones already there - I know that I can resize them.)

TIA.