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syscrash
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 Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:44 am Post subject: [REWRITTEN (now tangent)]Minimalistic Pager: minipager! |
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Minipager has been rewritten completely and renamed to tangent.
It's much more flexible and themeable; you can have tangent look like this:
http://syscrash.hopto.org/stuff/tangent/blue.png
or even this:
http://syscrash.hopto.org/stuff/tangent/desert.png
(The colours, padding, border width, number of rows, etc. can be changed.)
To get it:
svn checkout http://syscrash.hopto.org/svn/tangent/trunk tangent
type
make
then
./tangent
For info on how to use it, read the README.
Please let me know about any bugs or feature requests.
By the way, you have to edit your theme if you want to change the number of rows.
This can mean only one thing: minipager sucks!
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Hi,
I'm working on a pager called minipager.
screenshot: http://syscrash.hopto.org/~syscrash/minipager.png
You can get it from svn:
| Code: | $ svn checkout http://syscrash.hopto.org/svn/repos/minipager
cd minipager
make
su
(password)
make install
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It's kind of themeable (edit the pixmaps!).
So far, it is only positioned in the bottom right corner; position will be user-specifiable soon.
Opinions? 
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:16 am Post subject: great |
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i love it, everybody always talks about wanting a minimalist pager for openbox. keep up the good work.
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:07 am Post subject: |
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for this i use Netwmpager.
Its not in portage, but some dude keeps up the ebuilds. Just google and you'll find.
Its in the upper right hand corner of my pic here:
http://webpages.charter.net/cdsprague/desktop.jpg
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| That's pretty awesome man. I've been looking for something like this. |
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Minipager has come along quite nicely in the past few days, it now works via xlib, is color configurable with command line options, and only takes roughly 4.2mb of ram (on my 1gb system with 5 virtual desks). I am looking at how to improve that use even more.
For a current shot of it on my system, here's my latest screenshot. Look on the left monitor lower right.
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Any way I can tell it to be top center instead of bottom right?
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| rezza wrote: | | Any way I can tell it to be top center instead of bottom right? |
Not quite yet, but it's in the works 
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:00 am Post subject: |
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New version!
Written in xlib and uses parts of glib, user-configurable placement and colours.
It depends on yatesParse (a command-line argument parsing library), instructions on how to get it are in the DEPENDENCIES file.
| Code: | $ svn checkout http://syscrash.hopto.org/svn/repos/minipager/branches/minipager-xlib
$ make
$ ./minipager --help
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Enjoy!
Please tell me about bugs, feature requests, etc.
I'll look into implementing transparency.
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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omgbump cuz minipager is teh pwn
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Hi syscrash,
I'm afraid but I'm getting a compile error. A file is missing. | Code: | ~/minipager-xlib $ make
if test ! -d objects; then mkdir objects; fi
g++ -pipe -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -W -Wall -Wno-unused-parameter -pedan
tic -c src/xserver.cpp -o objects/xserver.o
In file included from src/minipager.h:15,
from src/xserver.cpp:1:
src/misc.h:1:24: yatesParse.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [bin] Error 1
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Please say it when you've fixed it.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| COiN3D wrote: | Hi syscrash,
I'm afraid but I'm getting a compile error. A file is missing. | Code: | ~/minipager-xlib $ make
if test ! -d objects; then mkdir objects; fi
g++ -pipe -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -W -Wall -Wno-unused-parameter -pedan
tic -c src/xserver.cpp -o objects/xserver.o
In file included from src/minipager.h:15,
from src/xserver.cpp:1:
src/misc.h:1:24: yatesParse.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [bin] Error 1
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Please say it when you've fixed it. |
You'll have to install yatesParse, get it like this:
| Code: | $ svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/yatesparse/trunk yatesparse
$ cd yatesparse
$ make
# make install |
Enjoy!
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| nightm4re wrote: | | roughly 4.2mb of ram (on my 1gb system with 5 virtual desks). I am looking at how to improve that use even more. |
Damn right you should. 4+ megs for a minimalist pager is outrageous. What does it need to have in memory? Surely the majority of it's information is discerned from the window manager. All it does is store/display a few tiny boxes.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| charlieg wrote: | | nightm4re wrote: | | roughly 4.2mb of ram (on my 1gb system with 5 virtual desks). I am looking at how to improve that use even more. |
Damn right you should. 4+ megs for a minimalist pager is outrageous. What does it need to have in memory? Surely the majority of it's information is discerned from the window manager. All it does is store/display a few tiny boxes. |
No idea why it uses so much, there is nothing special in the code that allocates a lot of mem 
It would be great if you could contribute.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Well, over IM syscrash blamed XLIB... solution? XCB: http://freedesktop.org/Software/xcb
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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So XCB will eventually substitute XLIB? the link wasn't very clear about it...
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| XCB homepage wrote: | Xlib has been the standard C binding for the X Window System protocol for many years now. It is an excellent piece of work, but there are applications for which it is not ideal, for example- Small platforms: Xlib is a large piece of code, and it is difficult to make it smaller.
- Latency hiding: Xlib requests requiring a reply are effectively synchronous: they block until the reply appears, whether the result is needed immediately or not.
- Direct access to the protocol: Xlib does quite a bit of caching, layering, and similar optimizations. While this is normally a feature, it makes it difficult to simply emit specified X protocol requests and process specific responses.
- Threaded applications: While Xlib does attempt to support multithreading, the API makes this difficult and error-prone.
- New extensions: The Xlib infrastructure provides limited support for the creation of X extension client side code.
XCB: an X C Binding
For these reasons, among others, we are working on XCB, an X C Binding which is designed to solve the above problems |
Um, that's pretty clear to me. Yes, XCB is an alternative to XLIB. XCL is an XLIB compatability layer for XCB enabling it to become the de facto replacement for XLIB once it is complete. It's functional although needs more momentum than it currently has. Having projects like this start to use it can only help.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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bump! renamed and rewritten!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| syscrash wrote: | | bump! renamed and rewritten! |
| Code: | | I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/cron0/.config/tangent/overrides.xml" |
That file isn't supplied in the SVN repository. How should I create it?
Other than that, I like it!!!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| JF_Cron0 wrote: | | syscrash wrote: | | bump! renamed and rewritten! |
| Code: | | I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/cron0/.config/tangent/overrides.xml" |
That file isn't supplied in the SVN repository. How should I create it?
Other than that, I like it!!!
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That's the overrides file, it lets you use your own settings for things that the theme would usually specify.
The syntax is exactly the same as that for themes.
For example, if you want your number of rows to be 4 all the time, your overrides.xml would look like this:
| Code: | <tangent>
<rows>4</rows>
</tangent> |
Enjoy
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how can i position tangent? i've tried editing the position* file and it works fine for that session but when i start it with .xinitrc it reverts to the top left.
great app, thanks very much |
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Is Opacity supported for Tangent. It looks like it is for minipager. If it is how do you configure it?
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Swoosh wrote: | how can i position tangent? i've tried editing the position* file and it works fine for that session but when i start it with .xinitrc it reverts to the top left.
great app, thanks very much |
It should position itself automatically; that may be a bug, i'll look into it.
| steve_d555 wrote: | | Is Opacity supported for Tangent. It looks like it is for minipager. If it is how do you configure it? |
It isn't, but you can achieve the same effect with transset or devilspie.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:18 am Post subject: |
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syscrash: Great programs!
I have 2 quick question about minipager; are you able to klick on it to switch desktops? Works fine with tangent (but I happen to like the minipager look more). Also, I don't suppose I'm able to turn off xcompmgr shadows for the pager, am I?
Thanx
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EDIT: oh, I just noticed that when I start minipager in .xinitrc, my WM won't start. All I get is that X as a mousepointer, the wallpaper and conky. Took me a while to figure out why. Just wondering if this is a known issue or if it's my fault.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| dswissmiss wrote: | syscrash: Great programs!
I have 2 quick question about minipager; are you able to klick on it to switch desktops? Works fine with tangent (but I happen to like the minipager look more). Also, I don't suppose I'm able to turn off xcompmgr shadows for the pager, am I?
Thanx
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EDIT: oh, I just noticed that when I start minipager in .xinitrc, my WM won't start. All I get is that X as a mousepointer, the wallpaper and conky. Took me a while to figure out why. Just wondering if this is a known issue or if it's my fault. |
You should be able to click on it to switch desktops. I haven't hacked on minipager in a long time, but it should switch desktops when button 1 is released on it. As for the shadows, just run xcompmgr like this:
That disables shadows for all windows, though. I'm not sure how to do it per-window.
About the xinitrc, are you sure that you put the & after minipager?
It should look like:
| Code: | minipager &
conky &
exec openbox |
Without the &, it will block until minipager is exited.
Hope this helps
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| Quote: | | About the xinitrc, are you sure that you put the & after minipager? |
Ah damn...thanx 
As for the other two, I guess I can live with the shadows for now, and since I use fluxbox the scroll button is faster to switch desktops anyway.
Thanx again
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