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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 5:00 pm    Post subject: OpenOffice 1.0.2 Problems with Menufont :( Reply with quote

Hi!

I'm having some problems witn the menufonts with the newest OO, both the precompiled and self-compiled (took me 10 hours).

It seems that an empty space follows every character in the menu (although they are only one character, since one backspace wipes both the space and the character). And this problem only appears in the menus. When you write some text, everything is ok.

You can see for yourself:
http://cs.helsinki.fi/~jpjohans/Kuvat/brokenmenu.png

i tried to use the Font Replacement option in the Options menu, but I couldn't make it work since the window won't resize and with this font problen the GUI components in the Font Replacement window do not fit in the window :(

Any ideas what could cause this, or even solutins how to fix this?

Thanks :)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering: Is that in KDE, and is your default KDE font Arial Unicode MS? If it is, I don't think your problem is Openoffice-related at all. I'm getting the same phenomenon in a variety of applications, including Nethack (Qt), Scribus, Sylpheed, whenever I choose that font. What's your Xfree version?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plate wrote:
Just wondering: Is that in KDE, and is your default KDE font Arial Unicode MS?


No, I'm using gnome 2.0.3 at the moment and my default font is Helvetica Cyrillic.

plate wrote:
If it is, I don't think your problem is Openoffice-related at all. I'm getting the same phenomenon in a variety of applications, including Nethack (Qt), Scribus, Sylpheed, whenever I choose that font.


Oh, all my other apps seem to work perfectly, Sylpheed-Claws, Pan, Scribus, Gimp and everything else. I guess I'll have to try some other systemfont anyway.

plate wrote:
What's your Xfree version?


x11-base/xfree-4.2.99.4 (with the transparentish cursors). It's pretty weird since openoffice 1.0.1 didn't have this problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hanta wrote:
It's pretty weird since openoffice 1.0.1 didn't have this problem.


Ok, now I have to take something back. OO 1.0.1 didn't have this problem, but now that I reintalled it so that I could do something useful with my OO, I get the same problem with it also... Damn annoying :(

Tried to change the default font for gnome2, but with no success (in solving this problem, the font changed allright but not in OO).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had this problem a long time. I tried fixing it a month ago and tried everything I could find on this forum but to no avail.

http://hlarssen.com/div/screenshot_oo.png

This is very anoying. I have tried reemerging the full sources and bin several times. I've had this problem with 1.0.1 and 1.0.2.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few things, none of which I think are going to answer the question, but...

1. I assume you used the font substitution setting to swap the UI font? What happens if you use a different font? Same issue?

2. If you go to Options | OpenOffice.org | View & bring the Scale down to say 75%, anything happen? Or does the font spacing stay the same?

3. This is only happening in OO??
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green sun wrote:

1. I assume you used the font substitution setting to swap the UI font? What happens if you use a different font? Same issue?


I can't do that since the window is fixed size and I can't see the important part of the font substitution window :(

Can the interface-font be switched by editing some text-file?

green sun wrote:

2. If you go to Options | OpenOffice.org | View & bring the Scale down to say 75%, anything happen? Or does the font spacing stay the same?


It scales down just like the fonts as if it was only a space character between letters, which it isn't.

green sun wrote:

3. This is only happening in OO??


Yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And lets go again...

green sun wrote:
A few things, none of which I think are going to answer the question, but...


Infact they did, this is great :)

green sun wrote:

1. I assume you used the font substitution setting to swap the UI font? What happens if you use a different font? Same issue?

2. If you go to Options | OpenOffice.org | View & bring the Scale down to say 75%, anything happen? Or does the font spacing stay the same?


When using the font substitution feature the problem goes away :)
I still don't know what caused it, but I'm damn glad that it works now.

When I scaled down the interface I was able to change the interface font since I could see the whole dialog. Wonder why I didin't think of that.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha...!!!! Sorry... just corrected my whole post here.

The font replacement worked.

I scaled everything down to 50% and I could'nt read the tekst but the whole window with fontreplacement was there.... so I made it... thats it. Finally 8)

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Thanks

Even though I usually not kiss guys I would kiss you now green sun :wink:
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it doesnt work for me. I replace the font "interface user" by "arial" and nothing happen, even after a restart of OOo. I tried to check/uncheck the "screen" and "always" option but it doesnt do it.

got something else up your sleeve?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lecholet wrote:
it doesnt work for me. I replace the font "interface user" by "arial" and nothing happen, even after a restart of OOo. I tried to check/uncheck the "screen" and "always" option but it doesnt do it.

got something else up your sleeve?


Well, no. Sorry :(

The thing that worked for me was replacing Andale Sans UI with Arial, Always box checked.

The problem doesn't seem to appear in OO 1.1beta, maybe you should give it a go. I'd use it if I only could get the proof reading for my language to work.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lecholet wrote:
it doesnt work for me. I replace the font "interface user" by "arial" and nothing happen, even after a restart of OOo. I tried to check/uncheck the "screen" and "always" option but it doesnt do it.

got something else up your sleeve?


You may need to manually type in Andale Sans, as it may not be present in the dropdown font list. Here's a quote from the OpenOffice.org website:
( http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/fontguide.html#8 )

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Changing the user interface font
There is no dedicated option to just change the font in the User Interface in OpenOffice.org versions that are based on the 641 builds (including OpenOffice 1.0). Nevertheless it is possible to change the font by the general font replacement mechanism. Select

Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org -> Font Replacement

from the menu. Check the "Apply Replacement Table" check box. Replace the font

Andale Sans UI

with the desired font. You probably will not find "Andale Sans UI" stated in the font list box of the font to be replaced but you have to write it manually into the "Font" field. Please choose one of the fonts from the dropdown list box for the "Replace with" entry. The settings apply immediately after pressing the "OK" button.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green sun, you've saved me lots of pain! Tanks a lot.

I couldn't see Russian letters in UI (for example, while editing spreadsheet cells), but now it works just fine. :)

But do you know if there is a variant of that Andale Sans UI font that supports Russian charsets?

And where in the OpenOffice is it installed?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terrible wrote:
green sun, you've saved me lots of pain! Tanks a lot.

I couldn't see Russian letters in UI (for example, while editing spreadsheet cells), but now it works just fine. :)

But do you know if there is a variant of that Andale Sans UI font that supports Russian charsets?

And where in the OpenOffice is it installed?


Im guessing you will probably need a font for the UI that supports Russian languages, but is your problem that the Interface doesnt display Russian, or that the Document doesnt? I noticed that there is a setting for "Languages" in the OpenOffice Options, under "Language Settings", but not sure if this will help. I'll try & poke around the OO web site & see if I find anything on multi-lingual UI as well (Im somewhat interested also...)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green sun,

Quote:
..., but is your problem that the Interface doesnt display Russian, or that the Document doesnt?


the problem was :) that the interface (menus and dialogs) didn't display Russian, but the docs did. For example, I was editing a spreadsheet:
In spreadsheet itself Russian displayed just fine, cause I've installed TTF fonts into OOo as it is advised elsewhere. But when I was trying to edit some cell's content I couldn't see it in the content editing line (above the spreadsheet itself), because it is rendered in the same font as all the interface.

After I used your advice and turned on the font replacement for Andale Sans UI it turned all right!

BTW, the sheet switching tabs also use the interface font and couldn't be seen as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green sun wrote:
Changing the user interface font
There is no dedicated option to just change the font in the User Interface in OpenOffice.org versions that are based on the 641 builds (including OpenOffice 1.0). Nevertheless it is possible to change the font by the general font replacement mechanism. Select

Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org -> Font Replacement

from the menu. Check the "Apply Replacement Table" check box. Replace the font

Andale Sans UI

with the desired font. You probably will not find "Andale Sans UI" stated in the font list box of the font to be replaced but you have to write it manually into the "Font" field. Please choose one of the fonts from the dropdown list box for the "Replace with" entry. The settings apply immediately after pressing the "OK" button.

tried in ximian oo 1.1 but does not work. may be the font name has been changed? any hint?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tried in ximian oo 1.1 but does not work


Same problem here.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

himpierre wrote:
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tried in ximian oo 1.1 but does not work

Same problem here.

with suka 1.1-r1 (= ximian oo 1.1.43) oo pick your gtk font

that's fine for me

hope for you as well
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/fontguide.html#9
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xlyz wrote:
himpierre wrote:
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tried in ximian oo 1.1 but does not work

Same problem here.

with suka 1.1-r1 (= ximian oo 1.1.43) oo pick your gtk font

that's fine for me

hope for you as well


what exactly do u mean with that??

I have tried with oo 1.4 and the Andale Sans UI trick works, but with ooximian 1.4 no :evil:
what is wrong?
Any sollution for than? It is Greek localization.
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