is this AGP problem or Motherboard problem?

opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

hi,
recently i build up my box and I found that something is wrong withit.
situation goes like;
1, "power" lamp just goes off and freeze(WIN&LINUX)
2, if I play some games it just freeze off (WIn&LINUX)
3, if I play AVI files or other video files, that power lamp goes OFF completly and freeze.

so I'm sure there is something wrong with my hardware. but not sure which one should I replace it.

my system looks like
AGP: Nvidia Geforece FX 5200
CPU: Intel P4 2.8E Ghz
Motherboard: MSI P4 865PE
Power: Perx 350w
I only have1 IDE CDR drive connected

if I could i wannted to change to Athlon with another Motherboard but i dont have $ to buy them all doh
anyone has idea which one should I replace to slove this problem?
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infecticide · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 5:19 am Post subject:

Try re-seating all of your hardware to ensure it is inserted properly and then boot a Gentoo Live CD and at the prompt run the memtest program.

bammbamm808 · Guru Joined: 08 Dec 2002 Posts: 548 Location: Hawaii

I have a hunch it could be PSU issues. Try borrowing a friend's PSU if you can. Something not only in the 450+watt range, but also something with 30 or more amps on the 12v rail. I was having similar issues, and a new PSU fixed it completely. Remember even some high wattage PSUs lack sufficient ampereage on the 12v rail. Read the specs.
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opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

oki, most of friends near by me arent geeks

so I am planning to buy something new p supply,
will something like this http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/cases/ultra/psu/ult30950/ should be fine?
I dont have experience of buying PSU only so I prob need to go out n check those outs

btw, thx for the info. hope this will fix the problem.
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Headrush · Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:28 am Post subject:

slycordinator · Advocate Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 3065 Location: Korea

As well as the other suggestions you should try and do a thorough test of your PS first before buying a new one.

To do this you'd need a simple multimeter

1) Unhook everything from the power supply and power up.
2) Attach the black lead to a ground (like your case) and the red lead to one of the power cables on the red spot.
3) Turn dial to check DC voltage. It should be +5V (if it's slightly higher that's fine).
4) Leave the leads the same and turn the dial to AC voltage (will be im mV).

Do that again with the parts hooked back in.

If the DC voltage goes down, you'll need to replace the PS.

And if that AC voltage read goes up by about 3-4 times, then you need to replace the PS.

Of course, most people don't have multimeters sitting around.

opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

ty guys again.
I think i got some tester out in the storage room so I gonna check that out.
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slycordinator · Advocate Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 3065 Location: Korea

Cool. If you are able to do what I was suggesting, please note that when I said that you should read the AC voltage that this is AC voltage running of the DC current coming out of the PS. The higher the "AC wiggle" the worse the PS.

It's so funny cause we were just learning how to do this little stuff in a peripherals class I'm taking. Granted, it's pretty basic stuff.

opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

omg:D
i think i lost my tester

so btw, I found 540W @ cheap price in local shop today, I think i just gonna rush in tmrw again and buy that one.
(even this isnt PSU problem, my PSU currently using is pretty messed up(I opened the cover just for fun b4:D so I just gonna buy new PSU n see what happends)
I now pretty sure how to produce the same thing, (play AA with weapon cache map for abt 20rounds) so tmrw after i replace my PSU its AA time

let u know the results.
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tomcat22 · n00b Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 68

opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

I found that my PSU came with the case is pretty LOW rated,

Deepak420 · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:14 am Post subject:

hatchet_ryda · n00b Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 5

Another way to get a basic idea of whats going on from inside of windows would be to use speedfan to watch for variances in all the voltages, but pay closest attention to the 12v rail as it drives the main devices. Anything beyond a 10% variance and the PSU is bad or incapable of delivering enough power to your box. Just one way to check it out since your dual booting.
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opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

hey, bought ATX-480W for S$25 (really cheap isnit) i'm cheapy person i always look for junks

then what a BIG surprize!!

the fps incresed 2x!!! and I feel like my X starting etc is twise faster!
and I have played some AVI's and seems sloved it.
( i need to play games and play videos many times to know it really fixed or not anyway)

btw, the America'sArmy 's fps is really increased 2x. before was hanging around 20-50 in wepon cache, now 60-88!
that was surprize for me.

anyway thank you verymuch for suggestion of replacing PSU. that was the answer i guess. no problems at all now.
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tomcat22 · n00b Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 68

opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

>@topicstarter: how much amps @3v3 has had your old psu und how much does the new one have?
donno, it doesnt say on the sticker.

here is my old PSU OUTPUT
+5v/22A
-5v/0.3A
+5v(fp)/1.2A
+12v/6A
-12v/0.3A
+3.3/14A

and my new PSU OUTPUT(this one also doesnt say amps donno wether it can be calcuated or not)
+5v/35A
-5v/0.5A
+SVSB/2.0A
+12v/17A
-12v/0.5A
+3.3v/27A

for its price, i can forgive if its not enought amps etc but it did slove my problems

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tomcat22 · n00b Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 68

opentaka · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 840 Location: Japan

looks okay now, but I heard wiard sound so i opened up the box and i found that AGP's fan is broken.
i gonna go replace the fan

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