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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: How do you Test DNS BIND w/o Internet IP Address Reply with quote

i just installed and compiled bind witih a single domain name and local ip address (192.168.x.x) Until I get the internet ips to replace the local ip addresses, is there a way to test BIND locally to see if it works before you put it out live on the internet?
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, install bind-tools if you haven't already.

It includes "dig". You can do "dig yourdomain.com" and it should return info on your domain.

Conversely, "dig -x IP.AD.RE.SSS" should give you back a host name.

You got to make sure that /etc/resolv.conf is set up to use your nameservers.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I run dig, it looks like its not resolving the domain name. I'm assuming this means my named isn't working correctly?

Code:

getz etc # dig streamingforjesus.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> streamingforjesus.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached


however if i change the name server entries in my resolv.conf file from the local machine ip (192.168.1.102) to another name server's ip, it looks up the domain and pulls another name server. below is my resolv.conf file

Code:
domain streamingforjesus.com
nameserver 192.168.1.102
nameserver 192.168.1.102
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try dig hostname.domain.name
Try dig @127.0.0.1 hostname.domain.name
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess it doesn't look like its working right ?

Code:

getz etc # dig getz.streamingforjesus.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> getz.streamingforjesus.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
getz etc # dig @127.0.0.1 getz.streamingforjesus.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> @127.0.0.1 getz.streamingforjesus.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 39606
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;getz.streamingforjesus.com.    IN      A

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Mon May 30 06:48:51 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 44

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
getz etc # dig @127.0.0.1 getz.streamingforjesus.com

BIND isn't listening on your real ethernet interface.
Code:
netstat -lp | grep named

will most likely return 127.0.0.1:53 instead of 0.0.0.0:53 like it should.

The second test shows that your zone isn't configured correctly either, but first things first.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, here is the output from the netstat

Code:
getz etc # netstat -lp | grep named
tcp        0      0 localhost:domain        *:*                     LISTEN      32609/named
tcp        0      0 localhost:953           *:*                     LISTEN      32609/named
udp        0      0 *:32782                 *:*                                 32609/named
udp        0      0 localhost:domain        *:*                                 32609/named


I guess this means its not even listining on the right port?
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's listening on the right port - domain = 53. It's only listening on localhost - 127.0.0.1

netstat -anA inet | grep 53 will give you numeric output (n)
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh ok...

Code:
getz bind # netstat -anA inet | grep 53
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:53            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:953           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
udp        0      0 127.0.0.1:53            0.0.0.0:*


I think i might have fixed it. I added the local machine ip address to the line "Listen-on ( 192.168.1.102; 127.0.0.1 ) in the named.conf file . Does this mean my name server is working correctly?

now it says:
Code:

getz bind # netstat -anA inet | grep 53
tcp        0      0 192.168.1.102:53        0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:53            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:953           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
udp        0      0 192.168.1.102:53        0.0.0.0:*
udp        0      0 127.0.0.1:53            0.0.0.0:*

and then when I run dig again:
Code:

getz bind # dig streamingforjesus.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> streamingforjesus.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 29460
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;streamingforjesus.com.         IN      A

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Mon May 30 09:05:16 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't I get an Authority section with the NS records when I dig the local domain name streamingforjesus.com?
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be on a mission. Did you sleep last night?

Yep, you should. You want me to take a peek at your zone files?

BTW, if this is your first go-round with BIND don't get discourage, it's not that easy.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope, no sleep yet.

here is my named.conf file

Code:
options {
        directory "/var/bind";
        statistics-file "/var/bind/named.stats";
        dump-file "/var/log/named.dump";
        zone-statistics yes;
        allow-recursion { 127.0.0.1; 192.168.1.102; };
        allow-transfer { 192.168.1.102; };
        notify yes;
        also-notify { 192.168.1.102; };
        pid-file "/var/run/named/named.pid";
        recursive-clients 10000; // default 1000 is too low for us
        serial-query-rate 10; // default 20
        max-transfer-time-in 60; // kills transfers after 60 minutes
        transfer-format many-answers; // Generates more efficient zone transfers
        interface-interval 0; // we have no dynamic interfaces
        listen-on-v6 { none; };
        listen-on { 192.168.1.102; 127.0.0.1; };
);

zone "." IN {
        type hint;
        file "named.ca";
};

zone "streamingforjesus.com" IN {
        type master;
        file "jesus/streamingforjesus.com";
        notify no;
};

zone "1.168.192.in-addr.arpa" IN {
        type master;
        file "jesus/db.192.168.1";
};

zone "localhost" IN {
        type master;
        file "pri/localhost.zone";
        allow-update { none; };
        notify no;
};

zone "127.in-addr.arpa" IN {
        type master;
        file "pri/127.zone";
        allow-update { none; };
        notify no;
};



and here is my streamingforjesus.com zone file :

Code:

$TTL 3D
streamingforjesus.com.       IN      SOA     ns1.streamingforjesus.com.
webmaster.streamingforjesus.com.  (
                                      2005052801 ; Serial
                                      8H         ; Refresh
                                      2H         ; Retry
                                      1W         ; Expire - 1 week
                                      1H    )    ; Minimum

                TXT     "Streaming For Jesus"
localhost.streamingforjesus.com. IN     A       127.0.0.1
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      A      192.168.1.102
www.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamginforjesus.com.
ns.streamingforjesus.com.       IN      A      192.168.1.102
ns2.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      A       192.168.1.102
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      NS      ns.streamingforjesus.com.
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      NS      ns2.streamingforjesus.com.
mail.streamingforjesus.         IN      MX      102 streamingforjesus.com.

ftp.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamingforjesus.com.
mail.streamingforjesus.com.     IN      CNAME   streamingforjesus.com.


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's start with the zone file:

Code:
ns.streamingforjesus.com.  IN  A  ....
..... IN A ns.streamingforjesus.com.

Don't you want this to be ns1? I assume that since it's in the SOA record.

The rest with A records that are all "192.168.1.102" should be converted to CNAME for now, until you get your IP ADDRESSES

102 is a bit high for an MX record. Switch it to 10

New file:
Code:
$TTL 3D
streamingforjesus.com. IN SOA ns1 webmaster (
                                      2005052801 ; Serial
                                      8H         ; Refresh
                                      2H         ; Retry
                                      1W         ; Expire - 1 week
                                      1H    )    ; Minimum

                                TXT     "Streaming For Jesus"
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      NS      ns1.streamingforjesus.com.
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      NS      ns2.streamingforjesus.com.
mail.streamingforjesus.com.     IN      MX      10 streamingforjesus.com.

localhost.streamingforjesus.com. IN     A       127.0.0.1
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      A       192.168.1.102
www.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamginforjesus.com.
ns1.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamingforjesus.com.
ns2.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamingforjesus.com.
ftp.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamingforjesus.com.


You may notice that I've shortened the SOA line. Anything not ending with a "." will automatically have the domainname appended to it. Just makes it easier to read. The same can be done will all the host names. For example, www.streamingforjesus.com. can become just www - Get the picture? It's up to you. Now let me comb thru your named.conf.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
options {
        directory "/var/bind";
        statistics-file "/var/bind/named.stats";
        dump-file "/var/log/named.dump";
        zone-statistics yes;
        allow-recursion { 127.0.0.1; 192.168.1.102; };
        # allow-transfer { 192.168.1.102; };
        # not-running a secondary so you don't need this yet
        #notify yes;
        # ditto
        #also-notify { 192.168.1.102; };
        # ditto
        pid-file "/var/run/named/named.pid";
        recursive-clients 10000; // default 1000 is too low for us
        serial-query-rate 10; // default 20
        max-transfer-time-in 60; // kills transfers after 60 minutes
        transfer-format many-answers; // Generates more efficient zone transfers
        interface-interval 0; // we have no dynamic interfaces
        listen-on-v6 { none; };
        listen-on { 192.168.1.102; 127.0.0.1; };
);

zone "." IN {
        type hint;
        file "named.ca";
};

zone "streamingforjesus.com" IN {
        type master;
        file "jesus/streamingforjesus.com"; # Standard dir is pri/ for primary servers, sec/ for secondary
        notify no; # fine for now, not running secondary.  See BIND ADMIN MANUAL re notiify and no notify in
                       # options and zone sections
};

zone "1.168.192.in-addr.arpa" IN {
        type master;
        file "jesus/db.192.168.1"; # Standard dir is pri/ for primary servers, sec/ for secondary
};

zone "localhost" IN {
        type master;
        file "pri/localhost.zone";
        allow-update { none; };
        notify no;
};

zone "127.in-addr.arpa" IN {
        type master;
        file "pri/127.zone";
        allow-update { none; };
        notify no;
};


Except for my comments in the file, it looks good. The directories for you zone files is up to you. Just thought I'd throw that in there. You should also take a look at the BIND 9 ADMINISTRATORS MANUAL.
THIS SECTION is regarding notify. Don't worry it's short.

Let 'er rip
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, I made the changes and ran dig streamingforjesus.com again and the authority section doesn't list just as when I dig yahoo.com. am i not supposed to have an authority section because i'm not running more than one name server?

Code:

getz bind # dig streamingforjesus.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> streamingforjesus.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 43580
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;streamingforjesus.com.         IN      A

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Mon May 30 11:36:05 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what command did you issue?
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARG, I missed something in your zone file.
Code:
   TXT "Streaming for Jesus"

Should be
Code:
   IN TXT "Streaming for Jesus"


You don't really need it. Change or delete that, restart BIND and what do you get?
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this all i'm supposed to get?

Code:
getz jesus # dig streamingforjesus.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> streamingforjesus.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 25023
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;streamingforjesus.com.         IN      A

;; Query time: 22 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Mon May 30 20:07:06 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change the section under the SOA from

Code:
                                TXT     "Streaming For Jesus"
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      NS      ns1.streamingforjesus.com.
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      NS      ns2.streamingforjesus.com.
mail.streamingforjesus.com.     IN      MX      10 streamingforjesus.com.

To
Code:
 IN     TXT     "Streaming For Jesus"
          IN      A        192.168.1.102
          IN      NS      ns1.streamingforjesus.com.
          IN      NS      ns2.streamingforjesus.com.
          IN      MX      10 mail.streamingforjesus.com.


"dig streamingforjesus.com" will show an ip address for streamingforjesus.com, but no SOA
"dig streamingforjesus.com -t SOA" will show the SOA.

Basically the line "IN A 192.168.1.102" assigns an ip address to the domain itself (no hostname). If you comment that line out "dig streamingforjesus" will show just the SOA, and not an ip address for the domain.

Give it a shot. I think we got it this time.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it worked..


Code:
getz jesus # dig streamingforjesus.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> streamingforjesus.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 54752
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;streamingforjesus.com.         IN      A

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Tue May 31 01:28:27 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39

getz jesus # dig streamingforjesus.com -t soa

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> streamingforjesus.com -t soa
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 61695
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;streamingforjesus.com.         IN      SOA

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Tue May 31 01:30:25 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The firt dig failed. Post the zone file again please.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
$TTL 3D
streamingforjesus.com.       IN      SOA     ns1 webmaster  (
                                      2005052801 ; Serial
                                      8H         ; Refresh
                                      2H         ; Retry
                                      1W         ; Expire - 1 week
                                      1H    )    ; Minimum

              IN  TXT     "Streaming For Jesus"
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      A       192.168.1.102
streamingforjesus.com.          IN      NS
ns1.streamingforjesus.com.
streamingforjesus.com           IN      NS
ns2.streamingforjesus.com.
mail.streamingforjesus.com.     IN      MX      10
streamingforjesus.com.

localhost.streamingforjesus.com. IN     A       127.0.0.1
www.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamginforjesus.com.
ns1.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamingforjesus.com.
ns2.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamingforjesus.com.
ftp.streamingforjesus.com.      IN      CNAME   streamingforjesus.com.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
i think it worked..

No it didn't - neither query returns an answer.
From now on, run
Code:
dig streamingforjesus.com any

to get any info there is on the domain, including nameservers, mail exchangers and text records.

A few more comments (also for overkill)

Code:
          IN      MX      10 mail.streamingforjesus.com.

This is only valid if mail.sfj.com is an A record - it may not be a CNAME!

Your best options here are:

Code:
$TTL 3D
@        IN SOA ns1 webmaster (
                           2005053002 ; Serial
                           8H         ; Refresh
                           2H         ; Retry
                           1W         ; Expire - 1 week
                           1H    )    ; Minimum

         IN TXT     "Streaming For Jesus"
         IN NS      ns1
         IN MX      10 mail

         IN A       192.168.1.102
ns1      IN A       192.168.1.102
mail     IN A       192.168.1.102

www      IN CNAME   mail
ftp      IN CNAME   mail


Neither the MX record nor the NS ones should be CNAMEs.

If you change this and reload the database:
Code:
rndc reload

an "any" query against your domain should return the SOA, TXT, NS and MX records.

Also, if you
Code:
dig streamingforjesus.com www

it should return both the CNAME and the A record it points to.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips adaptr! I'm always willing to learn.

I thought if the right side of the RR was an IP, it needed to be unique i.e. no multiple A records with the same IP address.

Glad a veteren jumped in to help! Maybe you can check this one too?

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-343373-highlight-.html
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made the changes above and came up with the following when I dig streamingforjesus.com www. I don't see the cname entries for mail or ftp, i just see one for the www which is an A record. Does this mean its still not working? Also, why do you only use an "@" instead of the domain name?

Code:
getz jesus # rndc reload
getz jesus # dig streamingforjesus.com any

; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> streamingforjesus.com any
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 31943
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;streamingforjesus.com.         IN      ANY

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Tue May 31 07:38:08 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39

getz jesus # dig streamingforjesus.com www
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 14457
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;streamingforjesus.com.         IN      A

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Tue May 31 07:38:19 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39


; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> streamingforjesus.com www
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 64647
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.                           IN      A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
.                       10740   IN      SOA     A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. NSTLD.VERISIGN-GRS.COM. 2005053000 1800 900 604800 86400

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Tue May 31 07:38:19 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 96
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