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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big thanks for your help sieter and your explanation, I will try it asap !
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I was able to apply the patch with your help.
But I get new problems now :?

When I launch 3ddesktop I get this :
Code:
charli@gentoo:~$ 3ddeskd --acquire -v
Verbose is ON
Found view: goright
Found view: goleft
Found view: slide
Found view: nozoom
Found view: linear
Found view: linearzip
Found view: bigmoney
Found view: perso
get property WIN_AREA failed - setting one
get property WIN_AREA_COUNT failed - setting one
get property WIN_WORKSPACE failed - setting one
get property WIN_WORKSPACE_COUNT failed - setting one
c=0, r=0, nc=1, nr=1

================================================================
3ddesktop will be acquiring images in one moment. Please wait...
================================================================

width 1280 x 1024
XF86VidModeExtension-Version 2.1
Got Doublebuffered Visual!
glX-Version 1.2
create context
Resolution 1280x1024
xgrabkeyboard rc = 0
xgrabpointer rc = 0
Depth 16
Congrats, you have Direct Rendering!
Found best texture size as 1024
DDDDDDDDDDDDDD demand loading 0
Arrangement constructor
get property WIN_AREA failed - setting one
get property WIN_AREA_COUNT failed - setting one
get property WIN_WORKSPACE failed - setting one
get property WIN_WORKSPACE_COUNT failed - setting one
c=0, r=0, nc=1, nr=1
get property WIN_AREA failed - setting one
get property WIN_AREA_COUNT failed - setting one
get property WIN_WORKSPACE failed - setting one
get property WIN_WORKSPACE_COUNT failed - setting one
c=0, r=0, nc=1, nr=1



So it set all at one desktop, because it only get one desktop, the first...
I have try to set manually WIN_AREA, WIN_AREA_COUNT and WIN_WORKSPACE, WIN_WORKSPACE_COUNT but no changes, I have try all other options for 3ddeskd (--workspace, --ewmh, --gnome2...) but I can't get it work properly...
Very strange....

I will unmerge emerge fluxbox with the patch and look if I will have luck !
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After some tries with the patch, I can't get it to work...
I have try with my other favorite WM, waimea, but I get exactly the same things...

If somebody have successfully instal and use 3ddesk with fluxbox (or waimea) I'm very interested !
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im using flux atm and i cant get it to work either, i only get one workspace listed....same after patching
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3ddeskd --acquire won´t work for me neither,
did you try
3ddeskd --acquire 700

that´s what I do;
my configfile is unchanged btw....
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use it fine with E. Tried it with blackbox, which flux is a decendent of, and it didn't work due to a... the way blackbox works, which I can assume flux inherited. BB and Flux have their own internal way of dealing with information pertaining to their virtual desktops and they dont advertise it much or provide a way to egt ahold of it so well... Conversly, Gnome , E, and kde and others, set up some information and hooks... so you can call some thing like GET_XATOM ( NUMBER_OF_DESKTPOS) and know how many desktops, and call it again and maybe get the a pointer to the desktop switching function. I believe the only way to get it out of black box and co. is to communicate with it directly, and that requires from what i saw
( I briefly tried a port, but was in way over my head) you needing to set up a X message loop and a lot of hassle. So i think the author is just waiting till the WM's conform a bit more. It shouldn't be that hard and I think a new version of BB wil support it soon. Follows that flux will (but as reading here, there way be a patch out for it somewhere too.)

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you, but the problem is that after apply the patch, there is no change... it's worst because after patch 3ddesk can get only one desktop... :(
In my log when I launch 3ddesk I have this :
Code:
Feb 15 22:45:58 localdomain 3ddeskd: get property WIN_WORKSPACE failed - setting one
Feb 15 22:45:58 localdomain 3ddeskd: get property WIN_WORKSPACE_COUNT failed - setting one


If it's environnement variable, normaly I can set them, I will try this but I think that the best way is to have a real support between flux and 3ddesk.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried the 0.2.5 version released but not yet available in portage an still no go in flux. Anybody have any luck as of yet?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using it in Flux as we speak.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried the patch and various arguments with 3ddeskd, what did you do to get it to work?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

by far the coolest thing ive ever seen for a desktop...check out this animation...

http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/images/seq1.gif

too bad i can never get my radeon mobility to work with 3d :evil:
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tropicalhandler wrote:
I've tried the patch and various arguments with 3ddeskd, what did you do to get it to work?


I did:

emerge fluxbox
emerge 3ddesk (or eddeskd i forget which)
then i started up fluxbox and did "3ddeskd -acquire"


I then added some stuff to my .fluxbox/menu file like so:
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   [submenu] (-Desktops-) {}
        [exec] (Start Desktop Daemon) {3ddeskd --acquire}
        [exec] (Change Desktop) {3ddesk}


And now I just click on change desktop, or if i restart the pc i just start the daemon whenever I want to. If you want more info on my system specs feel free to ask.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, thanks for the help. It currently recognizes all my desktops, however, it uses the screenshot of my current desktop to 1 and starts the carousel to 1 no matter what desktop I am currently in. I guess I'll just have to play around with it.

It does look pretty though, thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I added it to my flux menu like {3ddesk && 3ddesk --acquire}
Seems like the only way to make it restore my refreshrate once it's done.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

3ddesk is cool, but I have the same problem with the refresh rate under KDE3 so it seems not to be fluxbox related.

If I use the command like you, 3ddesktop rebuilds my 4 desktop panes and this take about a second with flipping graphics, not so nice.

Isn't there a command to reset the refreshrate? Or is there a simple way to send "Ctrl + Alt + '+'" to the keyboardbuffer?

I dream of a "3ddesk && resetrefreshrate", any ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, anyone got it working properly with flux? I still get only one screen captured, altough I recompiled flux with the patch.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doing a standard emerge worked for me. Initially, only the current window had its contents displayed, but once I went to the other screens, those appeared correctly. Perhaps it should be started at X startup so that new windows are always kept current? As opposed to starting 3ddesk after you have filled your windows.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey tecknojunky, just run
Code:
3ddeskd --acquire 700 && 3ddesk
and you should be up and running nicely. BTW, try the B and M keys with the desktop running.

Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeG wrote:
Hey tecknojunky, just run
Code:
3ddeskd --acquire 700 && 3ddesk
and you should be up and running nicely. BTW, try the B and M keys with the desktop running.

Enjoy!
Not working.

Precisly:

I'm on desktop 2.
Typing "3ddesk --acquire=700 && 3ddesk" (or separetly, change nothings to the behavior) zoom out only 1 picture of my 1st desktop and there is no number at the top.
Type the right arrow and you see number 5 appear at the top.
I can go up 6, 7, 8, 9 and 0.
The other way around works also except that 4,3 and 2 never appear at the top.
If I go down to 1, 1 appear at the top and it stay there (can't no longer go pass 1).
All this while the sole picture of desktop #1 is in the carroussel.

That's where I'm jammed at.

I have fluxspace activated. Can it be interfeering? I'm trying to figure out what's wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Far as I can tell, the only thing you're doing that I'm not is fluxspace. Have you tried 3ddesktop without it running yet?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeG wrote:
Far as I can tell, the only thing you're doing that I'm not is fluxspace. Have you tried 3ddesktop without it running yet?
No, not yet, but I will very soon (lots of open working windows right now.

I tought of it as I was writting the line. I'll come and post the results here when I'm done... unless someone with the same setup and unsuccess try it first and come here.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:27 pm    Post subject: press b & m Reply with quote

DuF wrote:
Anyone have the same problem than me with 3ddesktop and fluxbox ?
It's very frustating when I launch 3ddesk and to have always the virtual desktop which is corresponding to the first.... :x

puddpunk : I agree, press "b" is very cool, good tips :) You can press "m", it's also fun !


WOW! I didn't know about either of these and thet look pretty sweet! Any more up for grabs ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:31 pm    Post subject: mmmph screenie Reply with quote

Uranus wrote:
S_aIN_t wrote:
how about a screenshot for the rest of us?


sure: http://picasso.netcanvas.com/~jpapl/pics/3ddesktop.jpg

I used "sleep 5 && import -window root 3ddesktop.jpg" to make that screenie just in case u were wondering


Like that 'import' idea, I was looking for a method of taking screenies to show this off to some peeps at work *grin*. I see someone else has posted an animation of it also - I want to do one like that :P

Here's mine: http://martin.d2g.biz/pics/3ddesktop.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tecknojunky wrote:
Not working.


It does work :) .. I played a bit with the settings and found out, that you have to:
- emerge fluxbox with kde and/or gnome support (I used both, so I can't say exactly), by executing USE="kde gnome" emerge fluxbox
- copy the /etc/3ddesktop.conf to .3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf in your home-directory and edit the wm-line:
Code:
wm               workspaces

after that 3ddesktop with fluxbox should be working (at least for me 8))

The patch mentioned earlier in this thread didn't have any effect for me, so I think you can ignore it.
If you move a window from one workspace to another and switch back, with 3ddesk, the image still shows the window on the old workspace. This is a known bug and has nothing to do with fluxbox.

Hope that helps ..
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:45 am    Post subject: No, it's not... Reply with quote

Egal wrote:
I played a bit with the settings and found out, that you have to:
- emerge fluxbox with kde and/or gnome support (I used both, so I can't say exactly), by executing USE="kde gnome" emerge fluxbox
- copy the /etc/3ddesktop.conf to .3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf in your home-directory and edit the wm-line:
Code:
wm               workspaces

after that 3ddesktop with fluxbox should be working (at least for me 8))

That still doesn't work for me :(. I do have it working on my work machine, but I can't get it to work on my laptop. At work, I'm running on an Athlon 2600+, Geforce4 with the nVidia drivers. At home, I'm running Pentium-M, Radeon M 9000 (built-in kernel & xfree drivers). On both, I'm running kernel 2.6.0-test4-mmx.

Is it possible that those who have it working are running nVidia and those that don't have it running are something else?
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