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The Dark
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 Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 2:15 pm Post subject: emerge kde taking forever ??? |
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Hello fellow linux users.
This morning about 8:30AM i did a emerge --pretend kde to see wat was missing because it's tends to crash
I got the impression that it only had to update or emerge 3 packages .. so i did emerge kde thinking that as i got home things will be ready but............
my computer is still compilling and it's now 15:11PM....
The thing is that i can still write this message and it's still compilling in the
background.(only in a LINUX world only LINUX). but wat did i do wrong..
N - stands for NEW and U stand for Update how does it work..
Let me know....
o yeah sorry for my weak english.... |
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bsolar
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With emerge kde you're emerging KDE again...
In my 1GHz Pentium3 512Mb RAM it took ~20h (but it had to emerge also other stuff like xfree...).
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cyfred
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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You didnt do anything wrong.
The first time I emerged kde it took 24hrs (on a Celeron 566 with 256 M RAM) so dont be startled at 12hr compiles, they are faily reasonable in some ways. |
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drakonite
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, what they said.
And when you recompile kde it should compile all of the kde packages. So it should take quite a while.
U means upgrade
N means new
R means reinstall
D means downgrade
No matter what letter it shows for the package, if it lists it when you emerge --pretend, then it's going to compile it. The packages you already have it assumes you want to reinstall for one reason or another (there are PLENTY of good reasons... trust me.)
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The Dark
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| cyfred wrote: | You didnt do anything wrong.
The first time I emerged kde it took 24hrs (on a Celeron 566 with 256 M RAM) so dont be startled at 12hr compiles, they are faily reasonable in some ways. |
I'm back from gone and PC is still compilling.
At first i thought you were joking but as The Dark Hit's me, i now know that it's no joke.
Thanks for all replies... |
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The Dark
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| drakonite wrote: | Yeah, what they said.
And when you recompile kde it should compile all of the kde packages. So it should take quite a while.
U means upgrade
N means new
R means reinstall
D means downgrade
No matter what letter it shows for the package, if it lists it when you emerge --pretend, then it's going to compile it. The packages you already have it assumes you want to reinstall for one reason or another (there are PLENTY of good reasons... trust me.) |
Is there a man ...??? on this topic were can i find it..??? |
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The Dark
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I will let everybody know when it's finished..
Maybe i will have a new LINUX compile record.... LOL
Dosn't matter any how i still can go on the INTERNET..and post so LONG LIVES LINUX...
COMMAND EXECUTED EMERGE KDE
STARTIME 08:30AM
END TIME STILL PENDING
COMPUTER STILL COMPILING.. |
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pjp
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Moved from Installing Gentoo.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| yep.. it took 20h with my athlon xp 1800+ =) |
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drakonite
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| The Dark wrote: | | drakonite wrote: | Yeah, what they said.
And when you recompile kde it should compile all of the kde packages. So it should take quite a while.
U means upgrade
N means new
R means reinstall
D means downgrade
No matter what letter it shows for the package, if it lists it when you emerge --pretend, then it's going to compile it. The packages you already have it assumes you want to reinstall for one reason or another (there are PLENTY of good reasons... trust me.) |
Is there a man ...??? on this topic were can i find it..??? |
Check out the docs page on www.gentoo.org. There is one called the portage guide and one called the portage manual. One of them goes pretty indepth. Check man emerge for some light reading. There is also a sticky in the faqs forum I think...
BTW, you may have problems getting a record  My last kde build took more than 2 days If I ever get my laptop's power supply working it will take it at least a week... Of course I'm not putting kde on it.. not enough hard drive space, lol.
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cyfred
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| jufoa wrote: | | yep.. it took 20h with my athlon xp 1800+ =) |
That is not an encouraging thought. Im rebuilding all of KDE for my P4 2Ghz machine as I type this, and ive only done base, libs, utils, and doing network. Maybe its going to take longer than I thought when I first issued that command, emege kde..... bah ohwell |
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bsolar
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It may take ages, but I'm amazed that you can do it from konsole (still using the machine).
The first time I upgraded KDE I had a little doubt about the "installation from the installed" but since nobody ever pointed out that there could have been problems...I simply started emerge from konsole and kept browsing, editing, mailing, compiling other things... It may have taken a lot of time but It worked!
I remember from my windows days (you have to know evil to fight it...) the infamous "It's reccommended to exit all runnig applications before proceding" from the various software installers... |
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The Dark
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| bsolar wrote: | It may take ages, but I'm amazed that you can do it from konsole (still using the machine).
The first time I upgraded KDE I had a little doubt about the "installation from the installed" but since nobody ever pointed out that there could have been problems...I simply started emerge from konsole and kept browsing, editing, mailing, compiling other things... It may have taken a lot of time but It worked!
I remember from my windows days (you have to know evil to fight it...) the infamous "It's reccommended to exit all runnig applications before proceding" from the various software installers... |
I had a time out problem wich resulted in no connections at all (something went wrong) After a DVD (Man in black 2) i had to reboot the machine, and then as i thought that things would go NUTS on me, it just booted kdm and i could make a choice to boot up KDE 3.0.? or the new version 3.1.? (The new unfinnished version).
so i then did a emerge kde and it told me to delete the last llib that is was downloading an start over,... so i'm back to compilling an hope that it will work when it's finnished,..
But how do you delete /unmerge the old version...?
And if you do ,doesn't it unmerge any libs that you need...??
! Unfinnished KDE version and old version are working..Hmmmm
I kind a like emerge because it functions like a downloadmanager. |
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The Dark
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Ooh i forgot the new KDE looks COOOOOOOLLLLLL realy smooth.
I LIKE IT .. |
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The Dark
Emerge uses 'wget' to download all its packages, and wget is in a manner a download manager. The reason that KDE 3.1 will still work is that you have installed kdelibs and kdebase allready, which in essence are all that you must install to have a funtioning KDE environment. You may have failed on say kdetoys which is the third last package emerge compiles and installs, so there is no problems there.
To unmerge KDE 3.0.* you would
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emerge unmerge kde-base/kde#/kde#-3.0.*.ebuild |
# If you only want to remove kdenetwork-3.0.4 then replace # with network-3.0.4, if you want to remove all of kde 3.0.* just leave as is without the #'s in the command.
You will be given 5 seconds to verify that the correct packages are being unmerged, press Ctrl C when this screen comes up and scrutinise the list very carefully. If you are sure that your system will still work then just rerun the unmerge command. |
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The Dark
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Its finnished, but it's was worth it. (about 24Hrs)
Working fine.
Gonna try to unmerge other base now..
Wish me luck. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| You can graeatly cut down the amount of time needed to build kde-3.1 by saying:which only builds the basics of kde, instead of which builds ALL of the kde packages, which takes forever. |
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drakonite
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| yokem55 wrote: | | You can graeatly cut down the amount of time needed to build kde-3.1 by saying:which only builds the basics of kde, instead of which builds ALL of the kde packages, which takes forever. |
But by doing that you are not ending up with kde-3.1. You end up with kde-3.1 base files and the kde-3.0 versions of all the applications and such. If you compiled like that you shouldn't call it kde-3.1. You should call it a hybrid kde3.1 / kde3.0
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| Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Well, in that case you can go back and manually upgrade the peripheral kde packages that you use regularly to their kde-3.1 versions. Unless you actually use ALL of the kde packages, you still save a heck of a lot of time.
For instance, once I finished building kdebase, and went back and rebuilt kdeutils, kdemultimedia, kdepim, etc, while completely ignoring the useless aspects of kde such as kdetoys, kdeedu, kdegames, kdeaddons, etc. and thus saving a buttload of complile time.
Then, later on when new versions come out, those specific kde packages that you use and built explicitly, are listed in your world file, and thus are updated along with a world update. |
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