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MasterX
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 Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: ati-driver 8.14.13 is out |
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Yes, a new version of the ati-drivers is out. I read it on Rage3D and here is the link
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33818358
I hope the developers have the energy and the time to release the ebuild  |
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Rüpel
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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i'm really interested if there's any performance-improvement compared to the current ones. at least there's no word about increased performance in the changelog... 
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: ati-driver 8.14.13 is out |
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More like I hope I have time to fiddle with the next stinker to comeout of ATi. 
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Rüpel wrote: | | i'm really interested if there's any performance-improvement compared to the current ones. at least there's no word about increased performance in the changelog... |
AFAIK it's just bugfixes and improved hardware coverage. It has a proprietary installer as well, which hopefully will make configuration easier for some. | Quote: | New Features
This section provides information on new feature introduced in this release of the ATI proprietary Linux driver. New features include:
* New ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Installer
* New ATI Hardware Product Support
* Linux 2.6.11 Kernel Support
New ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Installer
The new ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Installer makes installing the ATI Linux driver a much simpler and user friendly experience. The installer provides for automatic and custom driver installations. Further, the ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Installer provides an option to generate distribution specific driver packages.
New ATI Hardware Product Support
This release of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver introduces support for the following ATI Products:
* Radeon® X800 XL
* Radeon® X850 PRO
* Radeon® X850 XT
* Radeon® X850 XT Platinum Edition
Linux 2.6.11 Kernel Support
This release of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver introduces driver compatibly with Linux 2.6.11 kernel. |
2.6.11 kernel support is new in this release? | Code: | root@BlueBox linux # qpkg -I -v ati-drivers
media-video/ati-drivers-8.12.10 *
root@BlueBox linux # uname -r | cowsay
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< 2.6.11-love2 >
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\ ^__^
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Hmmm.......
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MasterX
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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This is what Matthew Tippett (ATI developer) wrote at Rage3D
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The next few releases will have quite a few niceties in it that should close off a lot of loose ends.
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forceflow2
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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It didn't officially support 2.6.11, just like right now it doesn't officially support 2.6.12. It might build and function on it, but they aren't gonna care (and yes, they kinda care sometimes, believe it or not) if you complain about it not functioning with it. How the hell did they manage to get their driver installer to be about 4 times the size of the normal driver? Geez...
And to be fair the "quite a few nicities over the next few releases" covers a time span of between 6-12 months.
Maybe one of the niceties would be functional TV Out...
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Luka21
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I just installed it - and it's nothing special  . I have mobility 9000 and I already had a locked system and really ugly messy screen wirh composit enabled. The only thing nice about it is a graphical installer.
Edit: they have opengl version string bug and shows
OpenGL version string: 1.3.1003 (X4.3.0-8.14.13)
although I have x.org 6.8
great work! |
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ericxx2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I know glxgears is not much of a benchmark, but it's about the same as with the previous two drivers ~2500-2600fps on a 9500 pro. It does seem smoother in diablo 2 and quake 3 though. I'll have to try something else out (hl2) if I can get some other games working. My cedega subscription ran out... |
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MasterX
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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ericxx2005,
I do not know how you manage to get 2500 FPS, I am only getting 1700FPS and I have Mobility X600.
forceflow2
Do you mean that it does not compile on 2.6.12? This really sucks.
I am wondering, if I change the version of the old ebuilds will I be able to emerge this new driver?
EDIT: It does not compile on 2.6.12-rc3-love1 
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Neverwinter nights memory leak is fixed.
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black hole sun
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Also, it comes with a GUI installer, ala Windows' InstallShield  Should make it a lot easier for newbies.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| does xcompsoite still disable 3d direct rendering or have they fixed that? |
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ericxx2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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MasterX, an mobility X700 is equivalent to a radeon 9600, which mine is faster then, so your X600 is probably not as fast as my card (afaik).
I was just able to span my LCD and TV horizontally, and play a movie on the tv and quake 3 on the LCD with hardly any fps difference! I'm giving these drivers a big 'thumbs up' on stability, but performance is not really changed, so nvidia is still my next purchase as of now. But at least I may hold out to see the next driver release first. |
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MasterX
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| ericxx2005 wrote: | MasterX, an mobility X700 is equivalent to a radeon 9600, which mine is faster then, so your X600 is probably not as fast as my card (afaik).
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Does this mean that radeon X600 and Mobility X600 are not the same cards? I mean, do they have different chipsets? |
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MasterX
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Those who run 2.6.12-rc* need to apply the fglrx-2.6-agpgart.patch to compile the fglrx module. |
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ericxx2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | ericxx2005 wrote:
MasterX, an mobility X700 is equivalent to a radeon 9600, which mine is faster then, so your X600 is probably not as fast as my card (afaik).
Does this mean that radeon X600 and Mobility X600 are not the same cards? I mean, do they have different chipsets? |
From my understanding (googling), the desktop x600 is the same as a 9600xt with pci-express, and the mobile one is similar, but may be different clock speeds. Check to make sure that your vid card is 128-bit too, since some laptops came with a 64-bit x600. If it's 64-bit, that's your problem. Also, are you using the default size for glxgears? |
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MasterX
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ericxx2005 wrote: | | From my understanding (googling), the desktop x600 is the same as a 9600xt with pci-express, and the mobile one is similar, but may be different clock speeds. Check to make sure that your vid card is 128-bit too, since some laptops came with a 64-bit x600. If it's 64-bit, that's your problem. Also, are you using the default size for glxgears? |
This is what lspci -v gives
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Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
I/O ports at 3000 [size=256]
Memory at c8100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [58] #10 [0001]
Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable
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I am guessing I have the 64bit. Yes, I am using the default size of glxgears. Things are really bad when I use the fgl_glxgears, because I get only 300FPS |
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ericxx2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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wow, that's worse then my mobility 9000 (~350fps in fgl_glxgears)! In windows I could overclock it a lot though, maybe if something like that is implemented in the linux drivers in the future you can give a fps boost.
On another note, I really like the GUI installer. I hope they keep it flexible enough to install with or without it in the next releases though. |
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MasterX
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| ericxx2005 wrote: |
On another note, I really like the GUI installer. I hope they keep it flexible enough to install with or without it in the next releases though. |
I did not use the installer, I modified the ebuilds and compiled it |
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Cuchulainn
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I still get the same errors during compilation on my 2.6.11-r10 kernel:
| Quote: | * Building the DRM module...
make: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r10'
CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_m
od/agp3.o
CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_m
od/nvidia-agp.o
CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_m
od/agpgart_be.o
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/agpgart
_be.c: In function `__fgl_agp_init':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/agpgart
_be.c:7636: warning: `pm_register' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pm.h
:106)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/agpgart
_be.c: In function `__fgl_agp_cleanup':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/agpgart
_be.c:7646: warning: `pm_unregister_all' is deprecated (declared at include/linu
x/pm.h:116)
CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_m
od/i7505-agp.o
CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_m
od/firegl_public.o
In file included from /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/f
glrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:128:
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.h:56:48: warning: backslash and newline separated by space
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.h:57:6: warning: backslash and newline separated by space
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.h:58:41: warning: backslash and newline separated by space
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.c: In function `firegl_stub_putminor':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.c:511: warning: `inter_module_put' is deprecated (declared at include/lin
ux/module.h:578)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.c:513: warning: `inter_module_unregister' is deprecated (declared at incl
ude/linux/module.h:574)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.c: In function `firegl_stub_register':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.c:533: warning: `inter_module_register' is deprecated (declared at includ
e/linux/module.h:573)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.c:564: warning: `inter_module_put' is deprecated (declared at include/lin
ux/module.h:578)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.c: At top level:
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_
public.c:2650: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
LD [M] /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_m
od/fglrx.o
Building modules, stage 2.
MODPOST
CC /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r1/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_m
od/fglrx.mod.o
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Any idea how to fix this?
Cheers, Cuchu |
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ericxx2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Try 2.6.11, if that works, then maybe the patch listed above would help?Is DRM enabled in your kernel? Is any other vid card chipset enabled in your kernel?
Check http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33818358
There's some info which may or may not help there. You could post your question there too. |
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Cuchulainn
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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AGPGART is built as a module, together with VIA chipset support. DRM is not being built. I already checked rage3d, but thanks for pointing that one out. Isn't the patch meant for the 2.6.12 kernels? I am using a 2.6.11 gentoo-sources kernel.
Cheers, Cuchu |
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ericxx2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure the patch is meant for 2.6.12 kernels, but maybe the change that causes the problem started at -r10? I don't have DRM enabled at all in my kernel config, not even as a module, since it's not needed with the ati drivers. Do you have a reason for it being there? |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm really 'happy' about this driver - since i have a card that isn't supported in the previous versions... |
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irasnyd
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone here have a card that is (was?) prone to locking up with the ati-drivers? My 9700Pro locks up randomly (sometimes an hour, sometimes a week or more) with the ati-drivers (at least the 8.08 - 8.12 series) The R300 series of chips (9500's and 9700's) seem to have this problem the most.
I'm wondering if anyone that had the lockups has tested this driver.
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