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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Installing for a noob. Reply with quote

I'm an extreme noob and I can't figure out how to even start installing gentoo. I've had other linux distros and i could do basic things in them but they all had an installer program. If anyone can help me out here id be grateful.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that the first thing to do is download the image for the livecd. You can find this on the download mirrors on Gentoo's website. For instance:ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/releases/x86/2005.0/installcd/

At this point you would have to decide whether you want the minimal or universal livecd. The difference is that the minimal cd requires a working internet connection, whereas the universal cd can do the networkless install.

You should read through the Gentoo Handbook on how to install Gentoo, there are instructions for networkless and network installs as well as how to download and boot up the livecd, etc.

If you have any other questions let me know.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

Ok I have downloaded the universal iso and the packages iso.
my problem is that i boot to the disk and it has the loading screen then im just lost at what to do from there
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

again, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok got it now one more question.

am i going to have to partition the hard drives myself and if so I'd need to know how.

I have a secondary 20GB hard drive that want to use for linux
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do have to partition the hard drive but it explains exactly how to do that in the Handbook.

Just for reference my partitions are as follows:
Partition Name FS Type Size
hda1 /boot ext3 64MB
hda2 none swap 256MB (Typically 1 to 2 times the amount of memory you have)
hda3 / reiserfs Rest of the drive
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a concrete example:
Code:
ansient # fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 5168 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1               1          17      128488+  83  Linux
/dev/hda2              18         224     1564920   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3             225        4192    29998080    5  Extended
/dev/hda4   *        4193        5168     7378560    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda5             225        2208    14999008+  83  Linux
/dev/hda6            2209        4192    14999008+  83  Linux

ansient # cat /etc/fstab | grep /hd
/dev/hda1               /boot           ext2            noauto,noatime          1 1
/dev/hda5               /               jfs             noatime                 0 0
/dev/hda2               swap            swap            sw                      0 0

ansient # mount | grep /hd
/dev/hda5 on / type jfs (rw,noatime)
/dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw,noatime)


Use cfdisk to do the actual partitioning.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a new at this too. I want Gentoo on my PC badly. I've been met with great difficulty.
I have a blank, FAT32 formatted HDD.
I downloaded the universal install image. The checksum worked out.
I unarchived it using winRAR. I burn all those files on the CD using the native WinXP burner.
The BIOS is set to boot from CDROM. The CD is in, but it says to remove media and reboot.
What gives?
Could it be the cd image needs to be in an exact location on the CD?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

burn the .iso using a free CD image burner such as DVD Decrypter.

If you don't know how .iso files work, you probably aren't ready for Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBlunderbuss wrote:
I'm a new at this too. I want Gentoo on my PC badly. I've been met with great difficulty.
I have a blank, FAT32 formatted HDD.
I downloaded the universal install image. The checksum worked out.
I unarchived it using winRAR. I burn all those files on the CD.
The BIOS is set to boot from CDROM. The CD is in, but it says to remove media and reboot.
What gives?
Could it be the cd image needs to be in an exact location on the CD?



It sounds like you didn't burn your cd correctly. You should be downloading an ISO image file and burning the entire thing to a CD. The ISO file is an image of the entire CD. Any cd burning program should recognize the iso file and burn it to a cd all at once.

The blank hard drive is a good start, but one of your first steps will be to repartition it and reformat it using the tools on the CD.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ansient wrote:
burn the .iso using a free CD image burner such as DVD Decrypter.
If you don't know how .iso files work, you probably aren't ready for Gentoo.

Wow that was fast!
It's a matter of necessity. I can learn.
I just realized I have Easy CD Creator.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are new to gentoo please study the Handbook: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/
Follow that when you try to install. Then if you run into problems, search the forums first to see if you can find an answer. If you are still stuck ask here. Tells us exactly where in the Handbook you are and describe the problem. Be verbose. More info than necessary doesn't hurt, too little means we can't help you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CD image was at fault. It boots.
Thanks for pointing me to DVD Decrypter. Does the "verify" option perform a checksum? Just curious.
Also, do I absolutely need to download a Portage snapshot during install, or can I put it off until later?
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