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dufeu
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 Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 3:12 am Post subject: Online Package Database |
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Periodically, I go exploring looking for packages I may want to try.
I'm encountering three related problems for which I am interested in people's thoughts on.
1) Available packages seem to not always be mentioned in the database. The particular 'missing' packages I've run across (through other means) changes with time. I've always assumed that updates to the online package database are updated asynchronisly from the portage tree. Does anyone know if this is actually true?
2) I do know for a fact that described package versions are often out of sync from what's available. And this isn't just a matter of listing only stable versions of packages in the online database.
3) The depency information can be out of date on a package and many packages have woefully inadquate or missing descriptions.
For example:
As of this writing, xchat is no longer even listed in the online package database (net-irc/xchat). When it was listed, only version 1.8 was listed. Yet later versions were available in the portage tree. When I emerged xchat, the version I received was 2.0. In version 2.0, xchat has added dependencies for gnome-base. It should be self evident that these new depencies were not listed in the dependencies for version 1.8.
Not to highjack my own thread, but I'm a leetle POed with the xchat group regarding these new dependencies for xchat 2.0. They more than double the compile time. (When installing onto a system which doesn't already have Gnome installed). This is _very_ painful on a K6 PR200, 32 meg RAM, 608 meg SWAP.
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dirtboy
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:44 am Post subject: |
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I'll add something to this. Can we get a searchable web database?
Thats my only complaint. Everything else is great!  |
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plate
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| Moved from Portage & Programming. |
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Ralphus Maximus
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| dirtboy wrote: | | I'll add something to this. Can we get a searchable web database? |
Ditto! We used to have a page with the packages listed alphabetically, but it dissapeared. That was so much easier to use to troll for a package or if your looking for something and you're not sure if it's in in app-foo or app-bar.
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vericgar
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:08 am Post subject: |
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The online package database seems to have some major problems right now... a screen shot:
[img:c582c6c6ba]http://insaneone.com:8888/gentoo-pkgdb-shot.jpg[/img:c582c6c6ba]
Is the source that generates this page somewhere in CVS? I'd like to take a look at it.
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TAF
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 11:20 am Post subject: |
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it ain't just that !
i just emerged a new PC and ir gives me gentoo-sources-2.4.19-r10 as the lastest version, although /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r1 is present... |
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zhenlin
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Newest should really be renamed to 'Most recent stable release' |
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dufeu
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:15 pm Post subject: Well, I could almost agree. |
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| zhenlin wrote: | | Newest should really be renamed to 'Most recent stable release' |
This is what I originally thought but ...
I thought the latest stable release of the gentoo kernel was 2.4.20 (for example).
And then there are things like kvirc 3.0 with are not really stable (beta 2).
Part of the problem is what is the definition of 'stable'. In a related note: how does one peruse packages deem unstable (and therefore not eligble to be in the online database but accessible through portage).
Is there in fact a connection between portage and the online database? I suspect there in fact isn't but I can't tell for sure.
Further, if there is a connection between the two, could the online database be enhanced so a viewer could enter an architecture flag like '~x86' or '~ppc' and be able to view those packages marked as available for that architecture? Should this be a request?
I'd hesitate to add this as a request until I understood what linkage (if any) there is between portage and the on line database.
Could someone reveal this please?
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