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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no, I can't MAKE anything, see my post https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-358628-highlight-.html. Now I'm worse off than ever.
And also, by lspcia, did you mean type that into the Konsole? Nothing happened, it said command not found. I could probably figure this out with some research, but I really appreciate you helping me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano,

it isn't lspcia, but lspci.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mistake.

tux ~ # lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82)
0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
0000:01:0b.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems (former Lucent Microelectronics) V.92 56K WinModem (rev 03)
0000:01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Maheriano,

That proves you dont have any sound modules made for your kernel.
They could still be built in though.

Follow the ALSA guide to install the sound things. If you find yourself in make menuconfig, trying to choose things that are already set to [*] your kernel is OK. If the settings are [ ], change the required ones to [M]
When you are done with make menuconfig, providing you have only changed settings from [ ] to [M] you need only do
Code:
make modules
make modules_install
to compile and add the modules to those alredy built.

Do not emerge alsa-drivers, the kernel modules are used instead.

To tell you which hardware module you need, I need to see your lspci output.


I tried following the guide at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml but the very first thing, "genkernel --menuconfig" doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano,

You must be the root user and you probably need to
Code:
cd /usr/src/linux

You only use genkernel at this step if you used genkernel to make your Gentoo kenrel when you installed.

I have never run genkernel but I do know it has problems on some systems.

Saying that somethings doesn't work doesn't yor readers diagnose the problem. Saying I typed xxx and got this error yyy...
is very useful. The error text may not mean much to you yet (it will) butu it hlps your helpers to pinpoint the problem.
You should always post errors as exactly as possible. Copy and past is preferred, say if you have retyped them, typos can creep in.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Maheriano,

You must be the root user and you probably need to
Code:
cd /usr/src/linux

You only use genkernel at this step if you used genkernel to make your Gentoo kenrel when you installed.

I have never run genkernel but I do know it has problems on some systems.

Saying that somethings doesn't work doesn't yor readers diagnose the problem. Saying I typed xxx and got this error yyy...
is very useful. The error text may not mean much to you yet (it will) butu it hlps your helpers to pinpoint the problem.
You should always post errors as exactly as possible. Copy and past is preferred, say if you have retyped them, typos can creep in.


haha, you'd never say I have a computer degree or that I troubleshoot the networks for Telus! I know exactly what you're talking about, I'll copy and paste the errors from now on, no troubles. I'm going to try it the way you suggested soon as I get home from work. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a printout of the command as root....

tux linux # genkernel --menuconfig
Gentoo Linux Genkernel 3.1.5
Usage:
genkernel [options] all

Some useful options:
--menuconfig Run menuconfig after oldconfig
--no-clean Do not run make clean before compilation
--no-mrproper Do not run make mrproper before compilation,
this is implied by --no-clean.

For a detailed list of supported options and flags; issue:
genkernel --help
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano wrote:
Here is a printout of the command as root....

tux linux # genkernel --menuconfig
Gentoo Linux Genkernel 3.1.5
Usage:
genkernel [options] all


You need to run genkernel --menuconfig all

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone confirm this?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano,

Did you use genkernel to make your kernel originally ?
If not do not use it now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I did.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano,

The
Code:
genkernel --menuconfig all
command is correct for you now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano wrote:
Here is a printout of the command as root....

tux linux # genkernel --menuconfig
Gentoo Linux Genkernel 3.1.5
Usage:
genkernel [options] all


Can anyone confirm this?


That is what the Usage: line is telling you.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do I just match all the settings exactly to what they list there? I thought the issue with the sound card was that it wasn't picking up what kind I have, not that it's configured incorrectly. Will this fix that?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano,

genkernel is used to compile your kernel
make menuconfig allows you to configure your kernel yourself, or at least, fix the things that genkernel does that you don't want.

For ALSA to work you need to make sure you have:-
Device Drivers -> Sound then choose
Sound card support
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
Sequencer support
Sequencer dummy client
OSS Mixer API
OSS PCM (digital audio) API
OSS Sequencer API
RTC Timer support
Do not choose any of the debug options.
On the PCI devices and/or USB devices and/or ISA Devices menus,
choose your hardware device(s)

Go back the the Open Sound System menu and ensure it is off. You have selected OSS emulation in ALSA above. You may not use both ALSA and real OSS at the same time.

lspci will show your sound hardware, unless its ISA or USB.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed all the settings the way you have it and tried to run alsaconf to configure the ALSA drivers like the website says, but it didn't work. Here is a printout of what I typed as root and what I got as a result.

tux linux # alsaconf
-bash: alsaconf: command not found
tux linux # cd
tux ~ # alsaconf
-bash: alsaconf: command not found
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano,

the following indicates that alsaconf is part of the alsa-utils package.
Code:
atl64 ~ # which alsaconf
/usr/sbin/alsaconf
atl64 ~ # equery belongs /usr/sbin/alsaconf
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/sbin/alsaconf in *... ]
media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a (/usr/sbin/alsaconf)
atl64 ~ #

You must therefore emerge alsa-utils.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember seeing this on page 4....
Do not emerge alsa-driver.
and I thought it was alsa-utils, that's why I didn't do that. Good to know, thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RESULT OF ALSACONF

No supported PnP or PCI card found.
Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips?

Did this unearth a bigger problem?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That means that none of the available ALSA drivers works with your soundcard. I believe that alsaconf only tries the compiled modules. If so, all modules that you chose not to compile, were not tested. Did you enable Device Drivers -> Sound -> ALSA -> ALSA -> PCI devices -> Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALI AC97 controller?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is.
I remember setting up Gentoo before the compile of the kernel and pretty much guessing my sound card stats just to see if I could get the platform running. Obviously that could do it (though I could have guessed correctly, not sure), but can I check and see what type of sound card I had configured it for? And maybe change it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure you selected it as a module <M> instead of compiling in the kernel <*>? You should compile it as a module. If you have to change the config, don't forget to recompile your kernel, reinstall the drivers, copy the kernel to /boot, updating GRUB and rebooting the system.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmbsvicetto wrote:
Are you sure you selected it as a module <M> instead of compiling in the kernel <*>? You should compile it as a module. If you have to change the config, don't forget to recompile your kernel, reinstall the drivers, copy the kernel to /boot, updating GRUB and rebooting the system.


I had a *, not a M so I changed it. Now how do I compile the kernel while I'm using it, and what do I type? How do I reinstall the drivers? How do I copy the kernel to /boot? How do I update GRUB? How do I reboot.....wait, nevermind, I know that one! 8)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maheriano wrote:
Now how do I compile the kernel while I'm using it, and what do I type? How do I reinstall the drivers? How do I copy the kernel to /boot? How do I update GRUB? How do I reboot.....wait, nevermind, I know that one! 8)

8O :roll: :twisted:

Humm! Let me give you detailed instructions.

Code:
# cd /usr/src/linux
# make menuconfig
# make && make modules_install
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-version-gentoo
# cp System.map /boot/System.map-version-gentoo
# cp .config /boot/config-version-gentoo
# nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf

Update your existing boot option or add a new one. It's always a good idea to keep a backup kernel in case you have a problem with the new one.
Any more questions? :P :wink:
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I might have used i686 instead of i386, is that possible? And what do I do with grub.conf? It looks fine.
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