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 Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: mirrorselect unable to fetch list of mirrors |
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Hallo,
mirroselect -a -s10 führt bei mir immer zu
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Downloading a list of mirrors...
Unable to fetch a valid list of mirrors, Update Failed.
Quitting
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mirrorselect -ri geht.
Ein ping auf rsync.gentoo.org geht.
Woran kann es liegen ?
ein strace mirrorselect -ia-s10 ergibt
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execve("/usr/sbin/mirrorselect", ["mirrorselect", "-a", "-s10"], [/* 49 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys="Linux", node="arthur.hitchhykers.de", ...}) = 0
brk(0) = 0x80e7000
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40014000
concat("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
close(3) = 0
concat("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=154381, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 154381, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40015000
close(3) = 0
concat("/lib/libdl.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`\34\0\000"..., 512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=10964, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 8624, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4003b000
mmap2(0x4003d000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x2) = 0x4003d000
close(3) = 0
concat("/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0pY\1\000"..., 512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1183416, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 1113668, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4003e000
mmap2(0x40148000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x109) = 0x40148000
mmap2(0x4014c000, 7748, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4014c000
close(3) = 0
munmap(0x40015000, 154381) = 0
concat("/dev/urandom", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\237\274\222\307", 4) = 4
close(3) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
concat("/dev/tty", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
close(3) = 0
concat("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=39998496, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 2097152, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4014e000
mmap2(NULL, 28672, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0x46c) = 0x4034e000
brk(0) = 0x80e7000
brk(0x8108000) = 0x8108000
brk(0) = 0x8108000
mmap2(NULL, 212992, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0x48b) = 0x40355000
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0x4c1) = 0x40389000
close(3) = 0
getuid32() = 0
getgid32() = 0
geteuid32() = 0
getegid32() = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
time(NULL) = 1095414103
concat("/etc/mtab", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=579, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4038a000
read(3, "/dev/hdf7 / reiserfs rw,noatime "..., 131072) = 579
close(3) = 0
munmap(0x4038a000, 131072) = 0
concat("/proc/meminfo", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4038a000
read(3, "MemTotal: 515416 kB\nMemFre"..., 1024) = 572
close(3) = 0
munmap(0x4038a000, 4096) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGQUIT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGQUIT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGQUIT, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
uname({sys="Linux", node="arthur.hitchhykers.de", ...}) = 0
stat64("/root", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=3696, ...}) = 0
stat64(".", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=3696, ...}) = 0
getpid() = 9094
getppid() = 9093
getpgrp() = 9093
rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
concat("/usr/sbin/mirrorselect", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
ioctl(3, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbffff2dc) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
_llseek(3, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) = 0
read(3, "#!/bin/bash\n# Gentoo Mirror Sele"..., 80) = 80
_llseek(3, 0, [0], SEEK_SET) = 0
getrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, {rlim_cur=1024, rlim_max=1024}) = 0
dup2(3, 255) = 255
close(3) = 0
fcntl64(255, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
fcntl64(255, F_GETFL) = 0x8000 (flags O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE)
fstat64(255, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=11100, ...}) = 0
_llseek(255, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
read(255, "#!/bin/bash\n# Gentoo Mirror Sele"..., 8192) = 8192
concat("/usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=21512, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 21512, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) = 0x4038a000
close(3) = 0
concat("/usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-15.so", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\300\5\0"..., 512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=7636, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 10224, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40390000
mmap2(0x40392000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x1) = 0x40392000
close(3) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
pipe([3, 4]) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT CHLD], [], 8) = 0
_llseek(255, -7849, [343], SEEK_CUR) = 0
fork() = 9095
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
waitpid(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 1], WNOHANG) = 9095
waitpid(-1, 0xbfffebec, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes)
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, 8) = 0
close(4) = 0
read(3, "", 128) = 0
close(3) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8075010, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x8075010, [], 0}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
read(255, "DIALOG=\"$(which dialog 2>/dev/nu"..., 8192) = 8192
pipe([3, 4]) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT CHLD], [], 8) = 0
_llseek(255, -8155, [380], SEEK_CUR) = 0
fork() = 9097
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
waitpid(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], WNOHANG) = 9097
waitpid(-1, 0xbfffebec, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes)
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, 8) = 0
close(4) = 0
read(3, "/usr/bin/dialog\n", 128) = 16
read(3, "", 128) = 0
close(3) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8075010, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x8075010, [], 0}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
read(255, "[ -n \"${DIALOG}\" ] && DIALOG=\"${"..., 8192) = 8192
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
read(255, " then\n\t echo \"Error, scre"..., 8192) = 2528
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
pipe([3, 4]) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT CHLD], [], 8) = 0
_llseek(255, -868, [10232], SEEK_CUR) = 0
fork() = 9099
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
waitpid(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], WNOHANG) = 9099
waitpid(-1, 0xbfffec2c, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes)
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, 8) = 0
close(4) = 0
read(3, "0\n", 128) = 2
read(3, "", 128) = 0
close(3) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8075010, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x8075010, [], 0}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
read(255, "\nif [ -z \"${MODE}\" ] ; then prin"..., 8192) = 868
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
fcntl64(1, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl64(1, F_DUPFD, 10) = 10
fcntl64(1, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl64(10, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
dup2(2, 1) = 1
fcntl64(2, F_GETFD) = 0
fstat64(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(4, 2), ...}) = 0
ioctl(1, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40393000
write(1, "Downloading a list of mirrors..."..., 33) = 33
dup2(10, 1) = 1
fcntl64(10, F_GETFD) = 0x1 (flags FD_CLOEXEC)
close(10) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
pipe([3, 4]) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT CHLD], [], 8) = 0
_llseek(255, -9, [11091], SEEK_CUR) = 0
fork() = 9100
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, {0x8075f90, [], 0}, 8) = 0
close(4) = 0
read(3, "", 128) = 0
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
waitpid(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], WNOHANG) = 9100
waitpid(-1, 0xbfffe7c4, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes)
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
close(3) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8075010, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x8075010, [], 0}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
fcntl64(1, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl64(1, F_DUPFD, 10) = 10
fcntl64(1, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl64(10, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
dup2(2, 1) = 1
fcntl64(2, F_GETFD) = 0
write(1, "Unable to fetch a valid list of "..., 56) = 56
dup2(10, 1) = 1
fcntl64(10, F_GETFD) = 0x1 (flags FD_CLOEXEC)
close(10) = 0
fcntl64(1, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl64(1, F_DUPFD, 10) = 10
fcntl64(1, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl64(10, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
dup2(2, 1) = 1
fcntl64(2, F_GETFD) = 0
write(1, "Quitting\n", 9) = 9
dup2(10, 1) = 1
fcntl64(10, F_GETFD) = 0x1 (flags FD_CLOEXEC)
close(10) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
munmap(0x40393000, 4096) = 0
exit_group(1) = ?
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Falls der Rechner hinter einem Router sitzt, kanns daran liegen, daß der nicht als Proxy bekannt ist (--> eintragen in Umgebungsvariablen ftp_proxy, http_proxy, RSYNC_PROXY).
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Mathebug
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Hallo,
ich habe auch das oben genannte Problem. Kann es sein, dass ich in meinem Router noch Ports freigeben muß ?
Weil der Download der Pakete (Portage und stage) lief auch problemlos.
Falls ich aber doch einen Proxy eintragen muß, dann sagt mir bitte genau wie und wo ich das machen kann.
Schonmal vielen Dank im Voraus.
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smg
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mach mal auf einer shell ein export http_proxy "dein_proxy" && export ftp_proxy "dein_proxy", wenn da geht kannst du das fest eintragen.
cheers.
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kronker
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sitzt überhaupt hinter ner firewall?
weil soweit ich weiß ist diese funktion in dieser version nämlich verbugged
versuchs einfach mal der manuellen auswahl
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mirrorselect -i -s4 -o | grep 'GENTOO_MIRRORS=' >> /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
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als tip: schau auf der homepage nach einem server mit ipv6 und ipv4 (die sind meistens nicht so voll) |
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Mathebug
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Also ich hab das mit dem Mirrorselect nun sein lassen. Da es auch so recht gut zu installieren ging. Beim Updaten meines Portage Trees hab ich dann das webrsync anstatt des normalen sync verwendet. Alles andere läuft ja ohne Probs.
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kronker
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| man kann die daten auch manuell ins make.conf eingeben |
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Mathebug
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@kronker...
*lol*... du scherzkeks. Dann bräuchte ich auch kein Mirrorselect, das für mich den schnellsten Server raussucht.
An dieser Stelle sage ich nur... erst denken, dann schreiben 
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